Any plan to support Brunner FFB yokes or pedals ?

[Billabos]

Hello,

firstly, I just want to say what a joy to operate the Comanche is, well done A2A.

As alluded in the title, I was just wondering if you guys are aware of the issues us Brunner and butt shaker users are having currently with the Comanche ? It looks like there's no engine data coming out from Simconnect.

Thanks!
Bill.

[mike10]

Following.

[Nick - A2A]

Hello guys,

Yes, we are aware and we'll look into it for an update. Maybe not the first one as there a few other items slightly higher up our current priority list, but it's on our radar for sure.

Thanks,
Nick

[Billabos]

Hello guys,

Yes, we are aware and we'll look into it for an update. Maybe not the first one as there a few other items slightly higher up our current priority list, but it's on our radar for sure.

Thanks,
Nick

Yeah, I can imagine, thanks for looking into it though.
-Bill.

[leonpo]

+1 on Brunner support

[pegruder]

Ill throw my +1 in as well!

[Medtner]

Much love for you that you will try!

And any time you need help/testing. I’m here!

[mike10]

Hello guys,

Yes, we are aware and we'll look into it for an update. Maybe not the first one as there a few other items slightly higher up our current priority list, but it's on our radar for sure.

Thanks,
Nick

Glad to hear you guys are considering it. If you need a yoke for testing I live right over the Connecticut border and would be willing to loan my CLS-E.

[jaybird1nyc]

I posted my findings with my Brunner CLS-E in this topic: viewtopic.php?f=151&t=74731#p566999

No need to repeat myself, so I'm following this topic as well.

[Scott - A2A]

We reached out to Brunner.

Scott.

[jaybird1nyc]

Thank you Scott!

[mike10]

We reached out to Brunner.

Scott.

I think it could help them sell some hardware if there was solid integration with accusim 2.0 Even just using my spring joystick this plane is amazing!

[xmapsy]

Yes, I can't do without the support of the Brunner yokes and pedals either
- please stay tuned to this topic.
regards
Michael

[Scott - A2A]

As soon as Brunner gets back to us (hopefully they do) I'll update everyone. If you guys reached out to them it may move things along better.

Scott

[aurel42]

The Brunner client (CLS2Sim) is pretty simplistic. For the Brunner yokes, it just manipulates the aileron and elevator variables via SimConnect. For the feedback effects, it reads a set of SimConnect variables and determines whether the aircraft is airborne or not, how fast it's flying and how much thrust it produces, the state of the AP etc.
If I remember correctly (I looked at the SimConnect traffic when debugging an issue with CLS2Sim a while ago), the thrust mainly controls how the elevator affects the yoke (Effects / Yoke/Rudder is affected by prop wash).

I suspect the fix necessary for FSE/OnAir, ie. syncing SimConnect variables for MSFS engine state with the Accu-Sim state, is related to the fix for the Brunner yokes. Same fix, just a different variable.

(When I said "simplistic", I meant that, in a perfect world, the sim would provide forces based on physics, but MSFS doesn't, so CLS2Sim takes what the sim offers and leaves it to the user to set up a profile for every plane that turns that data into believable behavior of the yoke, stick, or rudder, for example with curves that set the "resistance" of the control device based on the speed of the aircraft.)