Disappointing how?
Compared to A2A aircraft? Isn't most addons disappointing that way? Or was it just junk? I ask because I found it for and was thinking about buying it. If it is at least as good as the one I have for than I might pull the trigger.
I saw a real one once, an Air Force plane. The pilot commented that it was "a good ash and trash plane."DHenriquesA2A wrote: ↑20 Sep 2019, 06:00I was the Chief Pilot for a Real Estate Corp owned by a close friend back in the stone age. We flew his 336 (a 337 with fixed gear) as well as other planes he owned. Nice plane but nothing special really.
Dudley Henriques
Hook wrote: ↑20 Sep 2019, 16:21DHenriquesA2A wrote: ↑20 Sep 2019, 06:00I was the Chief Pilot for a Real Estate Corp owned by a close friend back in the stone age. We flew his 336 (a 337 with fixed gear) as well as other planes he owned. Nice plane but nothing special really.
Dudley HenriquesNever had any temp issues with the rear engine. You get in the habit of monitoring the rear engine gauges in this airplane (especially on takeoff) and the cowls are adequate.Dudley, did you notice any overheating problem with the rear engine?
Also, I'd heard that the front engine was shut down after landing and you taxied to parking on the rear engine, don't know if this was a common practice. Obviously you'd want to start the rear engine first to make sure it was running as you couldn't see the prop.
Hook
I taxied using the rear engine to keep the front prop from throwing stones into the rear propeller.
I started the rear engine first to hear it start (and how it was starting) then stabilized the gauges before starting the front engine.
Dudley Henriques
Ah, thanks! I hadn't thought about propwash debris, that's a great explanation.DHenriquesA2A wrote: ↑20 Sep 2019, 17:43I taxied using the rear engine to keep the front prop from throwing stones into the rear propeller.
Shutting the rear down was a suggested procedure when taxiing. I've done both after landing. If the surface was clean and the taxi run looked good I'd simply taxi it on in. There were times when I'd simply zero thrust the front engine and power the rear to taxi. No real big deal either way really. Always a judgment call.Hook wrote: ↑20 Sep 2019, 19:11Ah, thanks! I hadn't thought about propwash debris, that's a great explanation.DHenriquesA2A wrote: ↑20 Sep 2019, 17:43I taxied using the rear engine to keep the front prop from throwing stones into the rear propeller.
I assume the front engine was started and left in idle while the rear engine provided the thrust for taxi. This would give the front engine time to warm up after starting. Was the front engine actually shut down after landing for the taxi to parking, or was it idled for that? One explanation I read was that it was shut down for safety reasons as any ground crew didn't have to worry about a spinning prop. Maybe for the pilot's peace of mind as well.
So, theoretically the rear engine should overheat, but in practical experience it does not. A good reason to go with practical experience over pure theory.
Hook
I'd guess it is somewhat the opposite, after all. I mean, if airplane manufacturers did engine installations that should overheat already in theory, given their record they'd surely manage to achieve this in practice!
I figure any engine is going to overheat eventually idling on the ground in hot weather, and the rear engine seems likely to be worse about it than the front. Doesn't seem to be a problem in flight.
Edited the post before, and yes, the experience appears to be along those lines. I can't find any claims that it would tend to overheat in flight, which would indeed be rather bad.
FSD was the A2A of the FS2k2/FS9 age, excellent modeling all around (VC, fuselage, FDE etc.). Their O-2A was a great bird then. The FSD team split in the early FSX times.curtis72561 wrote: ↑20 Sep 2019, 14:55
Disappointing how?
Compared to A2A aircraft? Isn't most addons disappointing that way? Or was it just junk? I ask because I found it for and was thinking about buying it. If it is at least as good as the one I have for than I might pull the trigger.
I agree 110% on the poor rating of the gauge lighting. It leaves a lot to be desired but at that time I was happy with it. Along comes A2A and that's how we judge all add-ons now. So after reading a couple of reviews that said "New panel lighting technology" I purchased and happy to say the lighting rating can be upgraded from poor to good (maybe a little higher).Dominique wrote: ↑22 Sep 2019, 04:02FSD was the A2A of the FS2k2/FS9 age, excellent modeling all around (VC, fuselage, FDE etc.). Their O-2A was a great bird then. The FSD team split in the early FSX times.curtis72561 wrote: ↑20 Sep 2019, 14:55
Disappointing how?
Compared to A2A aircraft? Isn't most addons disappointing that way? Or was it just junk? I ask because I found it for and was thinking about buying it. If it is at least as good as the one I have for than I might pull the trigger.
The Carenado bird is not junk but I felt that it was not up to it, I remember a toyish flight model and not so impressive VC (a poor gauge lighting for instance). Nice to do screenshots but not an aircraft I found interesting to fly. I won't be more speciifc because it has been put away on a disk for years now. It is one of the rare payware that I flew very little. YMMV.
I found that my purchase was filed onto my disk in December 2012 and that they have a version 2.1 now. So it may be better than it was then.
Too bad they didn't upgrade FSX lighting. I uninstalled my old and reinstalled from this installer and the same poor lighting . At least P3D is better .Dominique wrote: ↑22 Sep 2019, 08:35I found that my purchase was filed onto my disk in December 2012 and that they have a version 2.1 now. So it may be better than it was then.
EDIT A funny followup. Checking my email account I found that PC Aviator sent me a link to upgrade to v2 two years ago that I had filed and forgotten. I will try the version 2...
At least a dureable legend, if any Back in the "stone age" as Dudley used to call it, I was a delivery pilot for the the Swiss Cessna Dealer and I did dozens of delivery flights from the french manufacturing plant Reims to Zurich - among others also a few 336/7. I was told exactly the same "Legend". So maybe there is some truth in it?guillaume78150 wrote: ↑20 Sep 2019, 11:36 When visiting the old Reims Aviation manufacturing plant years ago, the guy who organized the visit told us Cessna choose the "336" nr in reference to the german Dornier 335. Legend ?
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