B-17 New Views?

[Firecapt32]

I was wondering if there will ever be an update for the B-17 showing different views like the Bombardier Station, Gunner Stations, etc?

[Gypsy Baron]

I was wondering if there will ever be an update for the B-17 showing different views like the Bombardier Station, Gunner Stations, etc?

You can create your own 'customized' views. I have a couple that put me in the bombardiers station,
the tail gunner station, the bomb bay.

You simply take an existing view, change the title and GUID then adjust the camera positioning values.

Here is a listing of the views I created for my purposes when flying multiplayer with the 91st Bombardment Group.

They aren't 'perfect' but serve my purposes.

Code: Select all

Additional views for the A2A Accu-Sim B-17G. These views may also be
installed in the Pre-Accu-Sim B17G but the numbering of the entries
may need to be adjusted. 

12/14/2012 - Gypsy Baron

Here are my camera definition entries for the A2A B-17G Aircraft.cfg file.
I adjusted the views for use with my TrackIR "normal" head position. They
might need tweaking for non-TrackIR users or to suit ones personnal preferences.

BACK UP your Aircraft.cfg file before proceeding!!!!

They can just be added after the default [CameraDefinition.xx] entry in 
the Aircraft.cfg file.

I have also included the definitions I use for moving around the VC using my
#2 hat switch on my X-45. Those views could be assigned to any button or switch
in the FSX Controls menu. The link below is to a JPG showing how this is done.

If you are 'short' on extra buttons/switches/hats a cheap USB gamepad makes for
an easy way to add additional controls for assignment.

By adding a line like this:

HotKeySelect=8

to a CameraDefinition,  it can be selected via a button, switch or
even a keyboard input. You can change the HotKeySelect=X entries to suit your
needs.

http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c24/Gypsy_Baron/TEMP/HotKey_Assigns.jpg

If you chose NOT to install all of the additional views, just insure 
that the numbers (.18 .19 .20 etc) are adjusted to be consecutive.

For the [CameraDefinition.xx] entries below, add them after the default 
definitions, #17 is the last default I believe.

//-------------- These are my additional Camera Definitons for the Bomb Bay -------------------------------
//-------------- Two Bombardier views, Tail Gunner view and a Bomb Bay looking ----------------------------
//-------------- down and back for Bomb Damage Assessment -------------------------------------------------
[CameraDefinition.18]
Title = "Bomb Bay"
Guid = {96873AAD-621B-4C45-8A58-DEF7B7FCB163}  //Guid must be unique - when making a new definition from a copy,
Description = Bomb Bay                         //just change one of the hex digits
Origin = Center
SnapPbhAdjust = Swivel                         //Allows you to use the joystick hat to move the view
SnapPbhReturn = FALSE
PanPbhAdjust = Swivel                         //Allows you to use the joystick hat to move the view
PanPbhReturn = FALSE
Track = None
ShowAxis = FALSE
AllowZoom = TRUE
InitialZoom = 0.3                          //Set to suit your application
ShowWeather = Yes
InitialXyz = 0.00, 1.2, -1.7         //oblique           Xyz = left/right, UP/down, foward/BACK
InitialPbh = 085.00, 0.0, 0.0        //oblique down      Pbh = Pitch Bank Heading (85 deg. pitch)
//InitialXyz = 0.00, 1.5, 0.0         // directly down position  (centered L/R, up 1.5, MDL fwd/back center)
//InitialPbh = 090.00, 0.0, 0.0       // directly down (90 degrees pitch)
XyzAdjust = TRUE
Category= Aircraft                    //The  Xyz & Pbh  data is referenced to the Aircraft MDL center
MomentumEffect=TRUE
ClipMode=Minimum
HotKeySelect=8                       //Assigned to "View camera 8 (select)" in the FSX Controls menu

[CameraDefinition.19]
Title = "Bombardier 1"               //A view from behind the bombardier
Guid = {96873AAD-621c-4C45-8A58-DEF7B7FCB052}
Description = Bombardier 1
Origin = Center
SnapPbhAdjust = Swivel
SnapPbhReturn = FALSE
PanPbhAdjust = Swivel
PanPbhReturn = FALSE
Track = None
ShowAxis = FALSE
AllowZoom = TRUE
InitialZoom = 0.8
ShowWeather = Yes
InitialXyz = 0.0, 1.0, 3.65
InitialPbh = 10.0, 0, 0.0
XyzAdjust = TRUE
Category=Aircraft
MomentumEffect=TRUE
ClipMode=Minimum
HotKeySelect=3                       //Assigned to "View camera 3 (select)" in the FSX Controls menu

[CameraDefinition.20]  
Title = "Bombardier 2"    //A view in 'front' of the bombardier, offering a ckear view down and forward
Guid = {96873AAD-621c-4C45-8A59-DEF7B7FCB053}
Description = Bombardier 2
Origin = Center
SnapPbhAdjust = Swivel
SnapPbhReturn = FALSE
PanPbhAdjust = Swivel
PanPbhReturn = FALSE
Track = None
ShowAxis = FALSE
AllowZoom = TRUE
InitialZoom = 1.0
ShowWeather = Yes
InitialXyz = 0.0, 1.0, 4.9
InitialPbh = 35.0, 0, 0.0
XyzAdjust = TRUE
Category=Aircraft
MomentumEffect=TRUE
ClipMode=Minimum
HotKeySelect=4                       //Assigned to "View camera 4 (select)" in the FSX Controls menu

[CameraDefinition.21]
Title = "Tail Gunner"
Guid = {96873AAD-621c-4C45-8A5A-DEF7B7FCB054}
Description = Tail Gunner
Origin = Center
SnapPbhAdjust = Swivel
SnapPbhReturn = FALSE
PanPbhAdjust = Swivel
PanPbhReturn = FALSE
Track = None
ShowAxis = FALSE
AllowZoom = TRUE
InitialZoom = 1.4
ShowWeather = Yes
InitialXyz = 0.0, 1.45, -13.00
InitialPbh = 5.0, 0, 180.0
XyzAdjust = TRUE
Category=Aircraft
MomentumEffect=TRUE
ClipMode=Minimum

[CameraDefinition.22]
Title = "Bombs Away"
Guid = {96873AAE-621B-4C45-8A58-DEF7B7FCB133}
Description = Bombs Away
Origin = Center
SnapPbhAdjust = Swivel
SnapPbhReturn = FALSE
PanPbhAdjust = Swivel
PanPbhReturn = FALSE
Track = None
ShowAxis = FALSE
AllowZoom = TRUE
InitialZoom = 0.6
ShowWeather = Yes
InitialXyz = 0.00, -0.6, 2.2         //oblique on centerline, down 0.6 and forward 2.2 (feet or meters??)
InitialPbh = 035.00, 0.0, 180.0      //oblique 35 degrees pitch, 180 degrees heading (down and back)
XyzAdjust = TRUE
Category= Aircraft
MomentumEffect=TRUE
ClipMode=Minimum
HotKeySelect=9                       //Assigned to "View camera 9 (select)" in the FSX Controls menu

//----------- The following .00X definitions are added after the .XX definitions above. --------
//----------- Note the different numbering format - .0 to .18 versus .001 to .005 --------------

//----------- These are my VC views that I assign to my #2 hat switch on my X-45 ---------------
//----------- that let me move around the VC with a flick of my thumb. -------------------------
//----------- I assign the left hat position to the default VC view (left seat) ----------------
//----------- in the FSX Controls menu. I define the "HotKeySelect" in that menu as well -------
//----------- to the "View camera 5(select" )as well as 6 & 7 ----------------------------------

[CameraDefinition.001]
Title = "Right Seat"
Guid = {8ff6c134-098d-409f-baec-caba3f683f98}
Origin = Virtual Cockpit
MomentumEffect = YES
SnapPbhAdjust = Swivel
SnapPbhReturn = False
PanPbhAdjust = Swivel
PanPbhReturn = False
Track = None
ShowAxis = YES
AllowZoom = TRUE
InitialZoom = 0.5
SmoothZoomTime = 2.0
ZoomPanScalar = 1.0
ShowWeather = Yes
XyzAdjust = TRUE
ShowLensFlare=FALSE
Category = Cockpit                    //The Xyz & Pbh data is referenced to the Interior (VC) MDL center
PitchPanRate=100
HeadingPanRate=100
InitialXyz=0.8533983, 0.0, 0.0       //Xyz = left/right, up/down, foward/back
InitialPbh=0, 0, 0                   //Pbh = Pitch Bank Heading
HotKeySelect=5                       //Assigned to "View camera 5 (select)" in the FSX Controls menu

[CameraDefinition.002]
Title = "Center Panel"              //View between the pilot and co-pilot seats
Guid = {195EAB58-9E4A-2E2A-A34C-A8D9D948F078}
Origin = Virtual Cockpit
MomentumEffect = YES
SnapPbhAdjust = Swivel
SnapPbhReturn = False
PanPbhAdjust = Swivel
PanPbhReturn = False
Track = None
ShowAxis = YES
AllowZoom = TRUE
InitialZoom = .4
SmoothZoomTime = 2.0
ZoomPanScalar = 1.0
ShowWeather = Yes
XyzAdjust = TRUE
ShowLensFlare=FALSE
Category = Cockpit
PitchPanRate=100
HeadingPanRate=100
InitialXyz=0.4, 0.0, 0.0
InitialPbh=5, 0, 0
HotKeySelect=7                       //Assigned to "View camera 7 (select)" in the FSX Controls menu

[CameraDefinition.003]
Title = "Top Turrent"               //Top turret looking back 
Guid = {195EAB58-9E4A-3E2A-A34C-A8D9D948F078}
Origin = Center
MomentumEffect = YES
SnapPbhAdjust = Swivel
SnapPbhReturn = False
PanPbhAdjust = Swivel
PanPbhReturn = False
Track = None
ShowAxis = FALSE
AllowZoom = TRUE
InitialZoom = 0.4
SmoothZoomTime = 2.0
ZoomPanScalar = 1.0
ShowWeather = Yes
XyzAdjust = TRUE
ShowLensFlare=FALSE
Category = Cockpit
PitchPanRate=100
HeadingPanRate=100
InitialXyz=0.0, 2.93, 1.40
InitialPbh=0, 0, 180
HotKeySelect=6                      //Assigned to "View camera 6 (select)" in the FSX Controls menu

[CameraDefinition.004]
Title = "Autopilot Panel"          //I don't use this view at all
Guid = {195EAB58-9E4A-2E2A-A34C-A8D9D948F070}
Origin = Virtual Cockpit
MomentumEffect = No
SnapPbhAdjust = Swivel
SnapPbhReturn = False
PanPbhAdjust = Swivel
PanPbhReturn = False
Track = None
ShowAxis = FALSE
AllowZoom = TRUE
InitialZoom = .4
SmoothZoomTime = 2.0
ZoomPanScalar = 1.0
ShowWeather = Yes
XyzAdjust = TRUE
ShowLensFlare=FALSE
Category = Cockpit
PitchPanRate=100
HeadingPanRate=100
InitialXyz=0.43, -0.88, 0.0
InitialPbh=5, 0, 0

Paul

[Firecapt32]

Thanks. I will try them out tonight. When using these views are you able to see the aircraft modelling or are these just the outside like using the 2-D cockpit view without a panel?

[Gypsy Baron]

Thanks. I will try them out tonight. When using these views are you able to see the aircraft modelling or are these just the outside like using the 2-D cockpit view without a panel?

They are inside the two models...the VC and the airgraft. Some adjustments may be needed as I set these
up for where my head is with trackIR.

Paul

[Piper_EEWL]

Oh nice. I might give this a try as well.

Thanks for sharing