I finished the sliding side windows.
The final product looks so simple and straight forward, but it took a lot of trial and error to get to there. This was the first attempt at the bottom window frame. It was made from wood and was going to be covered in aluminum. It just didn't look right, and was too bulky. It didn't flow well with the glare wings.
Then I tried using aluminum screwed to a wood frame slotted to allow for the sliding window. It looked better, but was still too blocky looking. The problem was the square extrusion to allow for the sliding window mechanism.
This is what I ended up doing. I just flattened out the square protrusion, making it longer so that It could stretch out farther and allow for the sliding window to not bind.
This is the back of the bottom window frame. You can see the wood frame.
Cut strips for the window trim
The trim strips attached together with two sided tape folded in half and screwed to window.
All window frame parts screwed on and weathered
I used 1/4" plexiglass for the side windows, and attached the handle and the trip contacts for the switch
I cut two 1 1/2 strips of plexiglass for the window handle, I fused them together with acetone from a hypodermic needle, and attached the assembly to the window in the same manner.
I drilled two 1/4" holes in the plexiglass and attached the switch trip contacts with hex head screws. The position of the contacts can be precisely adjusted by loosing the nut and sliding the bar. the two holes circled in pencil are for the switch bracket.
You can see the two switch trip contacts, and the switch bracket. The front trip contact opens the window in the sim, and the back trip contact shuts the window
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Here is a closeup of the switch. It is a DPDT mini toggle switch with one side connected to a BU0836X card to control the open shut movement in the sim. The other side of the switch is connected to a 140 mm fan and a 12 volt power supply. When you slide the window open in the sim, it also starts the fan at the same time to give you the sensation that you have in reality just opened a window. You can feel a gentle breeze, and it feels very realistic. The reverse happens when you shut the window.
The 140 MM fan with mounting brackets screwed on
Here is the fan mounted just above the window. I had to have it angled to feel right, so it didn't fit in with the slope of the deckhead. i decided to mount it outside the quilting and make a cover to make it blend in better.
I made a template of the fan from cardboard, then scribed it onto aluminum and painted it.
Fan with cover
I cut and painted a piece of aluminum to place a few inches behind the fan on the outside frame to camoflage the fan opening
Side window closed
Side Window open
The Co-pilots side is exactly the same only in reverse.
Bill
B-17 Enclosed Home Cockpit Project
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That window is just awesome, I love that it works with the sim too
cheers,
Lewis
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Thanks Lewis!Lewis - A2A wrote:That window is just awesome, I love that it works with the sim too
cheers,
Lewis
It really adds another dimension to reality. Now I just have to figure out how to activate various odours as well when the windows are opened for the complete sensory experience!
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If you ever find a perfume that smells like a B-17, please let me know. I have been looking to buy that for my wife in ages...
No she doesn't read what I post here....
No she doesn't read what I post here....
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C172, C182, P51 Civ, P51 Mil, B17, Spitfire, P47, B377 COTS,
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C172, C182, P51 Civ, P51 Mil, B17, Spitfire, P47, B377 COTS,
J3 Cub, T6, Connie, P-40, V35B
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I like that Tomas!Tomas Linnet wrote:If you ever find a perfume that smells like a B-17, please let me know. I have been looking to buy that for my wife in ages...
No she doesn't read what I post here....
If I do find some I will be sure to let you know!
Bill
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Just wanted to let anyone who might still be following this thread know that I went back and re-posted all the pics that had disappeared.
When I was looking for the replacement pics on my back up hard drive I came across photos of the inside construction of my throttle quad that I had never originally posted for some reason or another. I have posted them now with a short write up on page 2 of this thread.
Bill
When I was looking for the replacement pics on my back up hard drive I came across photos of the inside construction of my throttle quad that I had never originally posted for some reason or another. I have posted them now with a short write up on page 2 of this thread.
Bill
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Thanks Boris it's a great project. Maybe you could show your story via a blog or website too? Be a shame for it not be shown off a bit more
Cheers,
Lewis
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Your welcome Lewis! I may look into that.Lewis - A2A wrote:Thanks Boris it's a great project. Maybe you could show your story via a blog or website too? Be a shame for it not be shown off a bit more
Cheers,
Lewis
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So I am a bit late reading this page but I would like to say anyone can build a sliding window (most do not so I think your implementation and the problems you solved is great), but adding the fan for the sensation of fresh air coming in when the window is open, that is sheer genius! I look forward to seeing more.
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Agreed DC3 this is a true labour of love with some real creativity into the build.
Thanks,
Lewis
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DC3 wrote:So I am a bit late reading this page but I would like to say anyone can build a sliding window (most do not so I think your implementation and the problems you solved is great), but adding the fan for the sensation of fresh air coming in when the window is open, that is sheer genius! I look forward to seeing more.
Thanks guys!Lewis - A2A wrote:Agreed DC3 this is a true labour of love with some real creativity into the build.
Thanks,
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Hello
.... We have to recreate a flight simulator of a B 17 before detail. Therefore we are looking for the cockpit dimensions such. B. width of the cockpit, the size of the instrument panel, center console with Throttle Quadrant, etc. Has anyone here something like this perhaps? And if not, anyone here knows how we could come to a plan with technical dimensions otherwise.
Matze
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.... We have to recreate a flight simulator of a B 17 before detail. Therefore we are looking for the cockpit dimensions such. B. width of the cockpit, the size of the instrument panel, center console with Throttle Quadrant, etc. Has anyone here something like this perhaps? And if not, anyone here knows how we could come to a plan with technical dimensions otherwise.
Matze
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NICE! I love it! Although I have been working on a... shall we say BIG project! A full size instrument panel of a B-17G flying fortress! All gauges will work. All switches will work. Will also have 3D surround on monitors on top. Also, It will be painted original colors! Pitchers coming up soon.
-love you work,
-Samster
PS: I have been a pilot on B-17's in a past life
-love you work,
-Samster
PS: I have been a pilot on B-17's in a past life
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The bad news is time flies. Good news is you're the pilot.
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Nice!Samster wrote:Here it is!
https://www.facebook.com/10433493123637 ... 0/?theater#
You should start a separate topic for your project and keep us updated with your progress!
Bill
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