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New monster PC for FlightSim

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I’ve saved up a bit of money lately, and have sort of decided to buy my first new gaming PC since 2008. My current has been upgraded over the years, but it needs everything new from power supply on up, so a new build is probably better.

I’m looking at something i9 9900 ish, with RTX2080ti, and NVMe drives, 64GB rams. That sort of thing.

Anyone with a clue on what particular pieces are the better ones, in particular for FlighSim? There are so many different i9 processors, and various GPUs of the same capacity, and so much different RAM. I’m not particularly up to speed, and need some help.

Also, the question about building comes up. Do I get professionals to build it, or do I do it myself?
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All the Accusim-planes are in my hangar, but they aren't sitting long enough for their engines to cool much before next flight!

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Can't offer any advice on the new hardware since I haven't researched it, but will say I had doubts about building my own. Did my research for months, slowly bought each piece as sales came up, and had absolutely no problems building it myself. Easy! PC works beautifully, never had a problem with it. Just use pcpartpicker to help with the compatibility issues and product ratings, and you should have no trouble. https://pcpartpicker.com/list/

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A note about personal health and fitness.

20 years ago I built all my own computers with no problem. As the years go by, and I have misused my body, I have found my vision is no longer good enough (even with glasses - I hate my glasses!), the arthritis in my hands makes doing the install difficult and I worry about breaking things, and the state of my back etc (from motorcycle accidents in my mis-spent youth) mean I can only concentrate on the building for about 20 minutes before I have to pack it all away for another day. I still do things like swapping out video cards etc - small jobs that can be done quickly.

If you are subject to any of these limitations I would suggest you seriously think about trusting someone else to put it together for you. I used PC Specialist myself and then I get the benefit of a three year warranty as well so I felt it was worth the slight additional cost.
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Re: New monster PC for FlightSim

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Medtner wrote: 24 Apr 2020, 10:30 I’ve saved up a bit of money lately, and have sort of decided to buy my first new gaming PC since 2008. My current has been upgraded over the years, but it needs everything new from power supply on up, so a new build is probably better.

I’m looking at something i9 9900 ish, with RTX2080ti, and NVMe drives, 64GB rams. That sort of thing.

Anyone with a clue on what particular pieces are the better ones, in particular for FlighSim? There are so many different i9 processors, and various GPUs of the same capacity, and so much different RAM. I’m not particularly up to speed, and need some help.

Also, the question about building comes up. Do I get professionals to build it, or do I do it myself?

i wouldn't hesitate to call Jetline and have them make one for me. I've used them for years and never once regretted that decision.
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patful wrote: 24 Apr 2020, 10:39 Can't offer any advice on the new hardware since I haven't researched it, but will say I had doubts about building my own. Did my research for months, slowly bought each piece as sales came up, and had absolutely no problems building it myself. Easy! PC works beautifully, never had a problem with it. Just use pcpartpicker to help with the compatibility issues and product ratings, and you should have no trouble. https://pcpartpicker.com/list/
Thanks, patful, for the suggestion to check that page. I just quickly assembled a list that seems plausible...

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/LgtGNq


Also, Bruce, thanks for sharing! With your experience, if I just ordered all these parts, would that include everything needed in terms of cables and such, or is there "a secret ingredient" that kind of falls outside of the main components?
Erik Haugan Aasland,

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All the Accusim-planes are in my hangar, but they aren't sitting long enough for their engines to cool much before next flight!

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DHenriquesA2A wrote: 24 Apr 2020, 12:06
Medtner wrote: 24 Apr 2020, 10:30 I’ve saved up a bit of money lately, and have sort of decided to buy my first new gaming PC since 2008. My current has been upgraded over the years, but it needs everything new from power supply on up, so a new build is probably better.

I’m looking at something i9 9900 ish, with RTX2080ti, and NVMe drives, 64GB rams. That sort of thing.

Anyone with a clue on what particular pieces are the better ones, in particular for FlighSim? There are so many different i9 processors, and various GPUs of the same capacity, and so much different RAM. I’m not particularly up to speed, and need some help.

Also, the question about building comes up. Do I get professionals to build it, or do I do it myself?

i wouldn't hesitate to call Jetline and have them make one for me. I've used them for years and never once regretted that decision.
DH
Yeah, I remember that you, and others here on A2A are big users of Jetline. I've been at their pages and looked, and they are indeed candidates. The problem for me is the fact that I'm in Norway. The conversion rate is not very beneficial these days, and there is the customs to contend with. If all else were equal, I'd buy their best rig and be done with it. I do trust they are magnificent after having heard yours and others words of praise. :)
They are still an option, though...
Erik Haugan Aasland,

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(Homebase: Kristiansand Lufthavn, Kjevik (ENCN)

All the Accusim-planes are in my hangar, but they aren't sitting long enough for their engines to cool much before next flight!

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I just had one built for me by PC Specialist. P3D v4 flies on it. You can read more in the link below, on these forums. The only difference is that I ended up with 2 x 2TB M.2 (NVMe) drives instead of a 1 and a 2. P3D and scenery is on the faster Samsung drive, although, the Intel is no slouch either. All other software besides Windows, is on the Intel.
https://www.a2asimulations.com/forum/vi ... 32#p528885

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bladerunner900 wrote: 24 Apr 2020, 12:32 I just had one built for me by PC Specialist. P3D v4 flies on it. You can read more in the link below, on these forums. The only difference is that I ended up with 2 x 2TB M.2 (NVMe) drives instead of a 1 and a 2. P3D and scenery is on the faster Samsung drive, although, the Intel is no slouch either. All other software besides Windows, is on the Intel.
https://www.a2asimulations.com/forum/vi ... 32#p528885
Excellent insight, Bladerunner! Seems like I'm on the right track then. Seems like everybody who can ends up at i9 9900, 2080ti, NVMe...
Erik Haugan Aasland,

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(Homebase: Kristiansand Lufthavn, Kjevik (ENCN)

All the Accusim-planes are in my hangar, but they aren't sitting long enough for their engines to cool much before next flight!

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I am building a new AMD system based around the 8 core Ryzen 3800 . I still have a few components to buy, including the video card. When I finally get my $1200.00 stimulus payment I will get the rest of the components and post more info.
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bullfox wrote: 24 Apr 2020, 13:12 I am building a new AMD system based around the 8 core Ryzen 3800 . I still have a few components to buy, including the video card. When I finally get my $1200.00 stimulus payment I will get the rest of the components and post more info.
I've always been told that Intel is the way to go with FlightSim, but that may have been in the old days...
Erik Haugan Aasland,

Arendal, Norway
(Homebase: Kristiansand Lufthavn, Kjevik (ENCN)

All the Accusim-planes are in my hangar, but they aren't sitting long enough for their engines to cool much before next flight!

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Re: New monster PC for FlightSim

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Medtner wrote: 24 Apr 2020, 12:20
DHenriquesA2A wrote: 24 Apr 2020, 12:06
Medtner wrote: 24 Apr 2020, 10:30 I’ve saved up a bit of money lately, and have sort of decided to buy my first new gaming PC since 2008. My current has been upgraded over the years, but it needs everything new from power supply on up, so a new build is probably better.

I’m looking at something i9 9900 ish, with RTX2080ti, and NVMe drives, 64GB rams. That sort of thing.

Anyone with a clue on what particular pieces are the better ones, in particular for FlighSim? There are so many different i9 processors, and various GPUs of the same capacity, and so much different RAM. I’m not particularly up to speed, and need some help.

Also, the question about building comes up. Do I get professionals to build it, or do I do it myself?

i wouldn't hesitate to call Jetline and have them make one for me. I've used them for years and never once regretted that decision.
DH
Yeah, I remember that you, and others here on A2A are big users of Jetline. I've been at their pages and looked, and they are indeed candidates. The problem for me is the fact that I'm in Norway. The conversion rate is not very beneficial these days, and there is the customs to contend with. If all else were equal, I'd buy their best rig and be done with it. I do trust they are magnificent after having heard yours and others words of praise. :)
They are still an option, though...
Ah yes. That would indeed be a problem. Next best advice since Jetline is maximized for flight simulation would be to spec out one of their systems and have that system made for you over there. That would be my second choice were I in Europe.
DH

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Medtner wrote: 24 Apr 2020, 12:16 I just quickly assembled a list that seems plausible...
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/LgtGNq
I chose my system pretty quickly too, but checked, double-checked, and triple-checked specs and reviews for each component from both the manufacturers' sites, and the retailers'. Just don't rely on Amazon reviews since they're often for the wrong product (similar model, same brand).

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Might be able to save a few bucks and get a 8700k instead and overclock it to 5.0Ghz +. That plus a GTX 1080 has maxed out settings form me on P3dv5 running 30+ frames even in autogen dense areas.

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Also, don't be wed to Intel. I just built a new rig, and doing research and talking to several other tech guys I trust, I ended up going with AMD.

Here's my specs (just finished this build Wednesday) -

Gigabyte Aorus X570 Elite
AMD Ryzen 7 3800X (Running at the standard 3.4GHz right now. Will overclock later once I know the system is fully stable)
GeForce GTX 1080 8GB (will be upgrading that to a 2080 at some point, but I already had a 1080 and the 2080 would have almost doubled the cost)
16GB DDR4 (will be adding another 16GB soon, but I wanted to verify this new setup worked first before dual channeling)
2x 1TB WD Blue SSDs

Here's the build list - https://secure.newegg.com/wishlist/sd/c ... OqVVjSSw==

Also, I have a TX 750 PSU installed, but I'm pretty sure this setup only requires ~450 watts. I already had the TX 750 (Gold Certified unit) for one, but also I've been told that having a PSU with 1.5-2 times power of what you need, especially a Certified unit, will ensure consistent power when the computer is running heavy, so you won't have drop-outs and possible PSU early failure because you were stressing it.

Running Star Citizen at well over 60 FPS (haven't done a full clocking yet)
P3Dv4 still is being setup and tweaked, but even with pretty heavy sliders right, getting a steady 30 FPS in high complexity scenery with the PMDG NGXu and multiple multiplayer aircraft. I doubt I'll have much problme getting 50 FPS once I get it trimmed out.

Also, you're wasting money with 64GB of RAM. Nothing needs it. 32GB is on the extreme edge of what is used right now, so just go there and spend the money on quality. You'll get more out of it.
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I agree with Dudley’s post. I did just that. Before I even committed a singular dollar I had two phone calls, approximately one hour each. They wanted to understand my needs and expectations as well as which platforms I would be using. Never had an experience like that before. Never had a computer that performs like it does. The nice thing.....ongoing support at no charge, just place a phone call, if needed they can connect to your system remotely. Had it since January, works great!
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