Collings Foundation B-17G Crash

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thomas_mac
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Re: Collings Foundation B-17G Crash

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cessna lover wrote:
07 Oct 2019, 08:30
bobsk8 wrote:
06 Oct 2019, 15:57
https://youtu.be/5g6396ldrT4
thank you for posting this video sir. but it's absolutely disgusting that YouTube had to put stupid little ad's in the on the video. I hope they got my feed back about that. something this sad and tragic should never be looked at for money. this was a special plane she's NOT a cash cow for YouTube :evil:
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Re: Collings Foundation B-17G Crash

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You know someone(s) took the time to write a whole Wikipedia page about this accident? I was searching for something totally unrelated and it came up.
If you're curious: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2019_Boei ... ress_crash

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Re: Collings Foundation B-17G Crash

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thomas_mac wrote:
08 Oct 2019, 15:29
cessna lover wrote:
07 Oct 2019, 08:30
bobsk8 wrote:
06 Oct 2019, 15:57
https://youtu.be/5g6396ldrT4
thank you for posting this video sir. but it's absolutely disgusting that YouTube had to put stupid little ad's in the on the video. I hope they got my feed back about that. something this sad and tragic should never be looked at for money. this was a special plane she's NOT a cash cow for YouTube :evil:
YouTube ads are solely at the discretion of uploader and have nothing to do with YouTube.
oh I thought was from you tube. still it's ain't right seeing how people died here
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Re: Collings Foundation B-17G Crash

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cessna lover wrote:
09 Oct 2019, 04:48
thomas_mac wrote:
08 Oct 2019, 15:29
cessna lover wrote:
07 Oct 2019, 08:30

thank you for posting this video sir. but it's absolutely disgusting that YouTube had to put stupid little ad's in the on the video. I hope they got my feed back about that. something this sad and tragic should never be looked at for money. this was a special plane she's NOT a cash cow for YouTube :evil:
YouTube ads are solely at the discretion of uploader and have nothing to do with YouTube.
oh I thought was from you tube. still it's ain't right seeing how people died here

How is it different from any news agency having adverts on their website or TV channel?

It isn't.

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Re: Collings Foundation B-17G Crash

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hazzer111 wrote:
09 Oct 2019, 15:11
cessna lover wrote:
09 Oct 2019, 04:48
thomas_mac wrote:
08 Oct 2019, 15:29

YouTube ads are solely at the discretion of uploader and have nothing to do with YouTube.
oh I thought was from you tube. still it's ain't right seeing how people died here

How is it different from any news agency having adverts on their website or TV channel?

It isn't.
because they do it after running an article in the news not before.
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Re: Collings Foundation B-17G Crash

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sorry guys but this is going to be my last post on this thread. it took me 3 days to get the picture of this beloved plane out of my head and I don't want to talk about it any more. I'm going to move on. R.I.P Nine O Nine and crew :cry:
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Re: Collings Foundation B-17G Crash

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Preliminary report has been posted by NTSB if anyone is interested.

https://app.ntsb.gov/pdfgenerator/Repor ... m&IType=MA
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Re: Collings Foundation B-17G Crash

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Hi .
The pre-lim report leaves a lot of questions that still need answers , hopefully the engineer can answer the NTSB , to give some if not all the answers to this terrible accident.
my thoughts and prayers go to the survivers and relatives of all who lost the lives.
regards alan. 8) :(
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I watched Juan Browns review oft he preliminary report on Youtube last evening. Some things didn't make any sense to me. If all they had was one engine feathered, why could they only climb to 300 feet AGL? I would be nervous flying a traffic pattern at 300 ft, in a C172. Seems like more was going on that just problems with engine #4, .
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Re: Collings Foundation B-17G Crash

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Hi Bob.
I read the report on the link above my previous post , if you have not done so yet , i suggest you read it , but it still needs a lot more investigation , to get to the bottom of this aircrafts issues that caused this terrible crash.
regards alan. 8)
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Re: Collings Foundation B-17G Crash

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alan CXA651 wrote:
16 Oct 2019, 07:32
Hi Bob.
I read the report on the link above my previous post , if you have not done so yet , i suggest you read it , but it still needs a lot more investigation , to get to the bottom of this aircrafts issues that caused this terrible crash.
regards alan. 8)
Read the report from top to bottom yesterday.
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Re: Collings Foundation B-17G Crash

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An NTSB preliminary report is simply that; a preliminary report. Notice as you read it that the report makes ZERO attempt to determine cause or even discuss a probable cause. All the prelim report does is state the known facts putting the facts in place on a time line.
The prelim report is the tool the NTSB uses to open the door to what will eventually be their final report. It is in the final report where probable cause is determined if possible from the sum total of data collection made during the complete investigation.
NOTICE the complete absence of speculation in a preliminary NTSB report.
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Re: Collings Foundation B-17G Crash

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DHenriquesA2A wrote:
16 Oct 2019, 09:47
NOTICE the complete absence of speculation in a preliminary NTSB report.
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Thank you once again, Dudley.
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