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DHenriques_
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by DHenriques_ »
lonewulf47 wrote: ↑05 Oct 2019, 05:19
guillaume78150 wrote: ↑20 Sep 2019, 11:36
When visiting the old Reims Aviation manufacturing plant years ago, the guy who organized the visit told us Cessna choose the "336" nr in reference to the german Dornier 335. Legend ?
At least a dureable legend, if any
Back in the "stone age" as Dudley used to call it, I was a delivery pilot for the the Swiss Cessna Dealer and I did dozens of delivery flights from the french manufacturing plant Reims to Zurich - among others also a few 336/7. I was told exactly the same "Legend". So maybe there is some truth in it?
BTW if we did our initial twin rating on a 336/7 (at least here in Europe) we were limited to "2-eng inline" or similar (can't remember the correct wording), stating that this rating was not sufficient to fly "common" twins.
"Limited to Centerline Thrust"
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lonewulf47
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DHenriquesA2A wrote: ↑05 Oct 2019, 09:08
"Limited to Centerline Thrust"
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Yep, that sounds familiar
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lonewulf47
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guillaume78150 wrote: ↑05 Oct 2019, 07:21
Interesting. Our guide told us this was reported by the "Reims Cessna" CEO at this time, Pierre Clostermann. I guess he knew…
Well, that was way before "my time". I was active delivery pilot in the 70ies till early 80ies, which is quite some time after Closterman retired from this job. Nevertheless he was of course well remembered as
THE French WW2 Fighter Ace.
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AKar
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by AKar »
lonewulf47 wrote: ↑05 Oct 2019, 09:36
guillaume78150 wrote: ↑05 Oct 2019, 07:21
Interesting. Our guide told us this was reported by the "Reims Cessna" CEO at this time, Pierre Clostermann. I guess he knew…
Well, that was way before "my time". I was active delivery pilot in the 70ies till early 80ies, which is quite some time after Closterman retired from this job. Nevertheless he was of course well remembered as
THE French WW2 Fighter Ace.
His book, The Big Show (Le Grand Cirque), is excellent, I'm sure you've read it. If someone around hasn't, then there's a suggestion!
I didn't know he was involved with the Reims business. They mostly acted as an European plant for Cessna as far as I know, producing mostly identical airplanes to the American ones (aside the model number including prefix 'F' for French I guess). But the 'Reims Rocket' was excellent. Just about what 172 was supposed to be, with enough extra oomph to make the airplane at least somewhat useful, even with the floats under it.
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by lonewulf47 »
AKar wrote: ↑05 Oct 2019, 11:46
I didn't know he was involved with the Reims business. They mostly acted as an European plant for Cessna as far as I know, producing mostly identical airplanes to the American ones (aside the model number including prefix 'F' for French I guess). But the 'Reims Rocket' was excellent. Just about what 172 was supposed to be, with enough extra oomph to make the airplane at least somewhat useful, even with the floats under it.
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Oh yesss, I remeber the Reims Rocket very well. W had one privately owned on our 400m Grass RWY airfield LSZO and the extra power (Conti 210 HP Fuel Injection Engine) proved to be exceptionally useful under these circumstances...
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Good to see you here again
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by guillaume78150 »
lonewulf47 wrote: ↑05 Oct 2019, 09:36
guillaume78150 wrote: ↑05 Oct 2019, 07:21
Interesting. Our guide told us this was reported by the "Reims Cessna" CEO at this time, Pierre Clostermann. I guess he knew…
Well, that was way before "my time". I was active delivery pilot in the 70ies till early 80ies, which is quite some time after Closterman retired from this job. Nevertheless he was of course well remembered as
THE French WW2 Fighter Ace.
Pierre Clostermann was the owner of the former Max Holste company. They manufactured the "Broussard" for the french Armée de l'Air in the early 50s.
As the plant was in Reims, Pierre Clostermann proposed a partnership to Cessna, reason why he was a co-founder of the Reims-Cessna cy in 1962. His father, Jacques, was CEO until 1970. Pierre Clostermann took over and remained CEO until he left in 1977.
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ImpendingJoker
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by ImpendingJoker »
curtis72561 wrote: ↑22 Sep 2019, 09:55
Dominique wrote: ↑22 Sep 2019, 08:35
I found that my purchase was filed onto my disk in December 2012 and that they have a version 2.1 now. So it may be better than it was then.
EDIT A funny followup. Checking my email account I found that PC Aviator sent me a link to upgrade to v2 two years ago that I had filed and forgotten. I will try the version 2...
Too bad they didn't upgrade FSX lighting. I uninstalled my old and reinstalled from this installer and the same poor lighting
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I too have this aircraft, it's good eyecandy and great for screen shots, but it, like most other Carenado planes,use the standard FSX/P3D flight model and it is pretty easy to fly. Sure this would be a great A2A plane but with, them getting the Aerostar, I doubt that they will spend the money to do such a niche aircraft. We stand a better chance of getting a C-47 or Seneca before a 336/337.
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Piston_Buster
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by Piston_Buster »
I used to fly a C337 Spotting/Directing Fires. It’s an interesting Aircraft that needed to be handled a little differently to other Twins. Never had heating issues. The aft engine has to large cowl flaps that keep it under control (even in Australian Summer).
The Carenado offering is a great representation of the C337.
Cheers,
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by Lewis - A2A »
guillaume78150 wrote: ↑20 Sep 2019, 11:36
When visiting the old Reims Aviation manufacturing plant years ago, the guy who organized the visit told us Cessna choose the "336" nr in reference to the german Dornier 335. Legend ?
Even if its not, I'd like to pretend it is as that is very cool! haha
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Hook wrote: ↑20 Sep 2019, 16:21
I saw a real one once, an Air Force plane. The pilot commented that it was "a good ash and trash plane."
Those guys..at least the ones currently flying for a 3 letter agency, LOVE flying in circles! They do it all the time in the middle east
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