Space Shuttle - How to land

[Killratio]

I just tripped over this, not new but a good watch.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jb4prVsXkZU

[bmbrzmn101]

Fun explanation!

[gulredrel]

Great one.

"Turns out, the Earth is spinning"

[n421nj]

One of the things I like about x plane. Giving it a go after a few cervezas.

[Medtner]

Oh my, that's why my approaches in the Comanche are often too fast - I watched the wrong tutorial. 10.000 ft/m and 350 mph is probably ever so sightly too fast. Gotta rethink the Comanche approach, methinks.

[Dogsbody55]

Oh my, that's why my approaches in the Comanche are often too fast - I watched the wrong tutorial. 10.000 ft/m and 350 mph is probably ever so sightly too fast. Gotta rethink the Comanche approach, methinks.

I'd have thought that the runways being too short would tell you something...


Cheers,
Mike

[AKar]

Nice.

Related, I always loved (and still do!) lectures that kind of ridicule what we 'obviously' know so far, or at least make jokes of it. It keeps the audience sharp and connected, while subconsciously pushing the new info in. It appears to work way up into purely abstract world at-sight of advanced concepts.

Not quite sure what the mechanism is but always have loved it.

-Esa

[DHenriques_]

Nice.

Related, I always loved (and still do!) lectures that kind of ridicule what we 'obviously' know so far, or at least make jokes of it. It keeps the audience sharp and connected, while subconsciously pushing the new info in. It appears to work way up into purely abstract world at-sight of advanced concepts.

Not quite sure what the mechanism is but always have loved it.

-Esa

This is exactly right. I've stressed the judicial use of humor into flight instruction for years. Humor used carefully is a tremendous aid when teaching highly technical material to people who don't necessarily have a technical background. This is a scenario we run into many many times as flight instructors.
Dudley Henriques

[Medtner]

Nice.

Related, I always loved (and still do!) lectures that kind of ridicule what we 'obviously' know so far, or at least make jokes of it. It keeps the audience sharp and connected, while subconsciously pushing the new info in. It appears to work way up into purely abstract world at-sight of advanced concepts.

Not quite sure what the mechanism is but always have loved it.

-Esa

This is exactly right. I've stressed the judicial use of humor into flight instruction for years. Humor used carefully is a tremendous aid when teaching highly technical material to people who don't necessarily have a technical background. This is a scenario we run into many many times as flight instructors.
Dudley Henriques

Rod Machado springs to mind

[DHenriques_]

Nice.

Related, I always loved (and still do!) lectures that kind of ridicule what we 'obviously' know so far, or at least make jokes of it. It keeps the audience sharp and connected, while subconsciously pushing the new info in. It appears to work way up into purely abstract world at-sight of advanced concepts.

Not quite sure what the mechanism is but always have loved it.

-Esa

This is exactly right. I've stressed the judicial use of humor into flight instruction for years. Humor used carefully is a tremendous aid when teaching highly technical material to people who don't necessarily have a technical background. This is a scenario we run into many many times as flight instructors.
Dudley Henriques

Rod Machado springs to mind

Yes, a perfect example. He sent me every one of his books to review which I did. I recommend Rod's work every day.
(Disclaimer; Rod is a personal friend)
Dudley Henriques

[BrettT]

I remember writing a time step program in college factoring in things like drag, density, temperature, speed, AOA, etc to show the space shuttle glide path through the atmosphere. Fun little project from a long time ago

[DHenriques_]

I remember writing a time step program in college factoring in things like drag, density, temperature, speed, AOA, etc to show the space shuttle glide path through the atmosphere. Fun little project from a long time ago

The Shuttle landing is a one shot takes all deal for sure. They used a specially equipped Gulfstream to replicate the approach parameters. Screwing up as I recall was NOT an option. LOL
Dudley Henriques

[BrettT]

lol Yes indeed!

[CAPFlyer]

In one of my trips to Houston, I remember hearing a talk by an Astronaut (sorry, don't remember who), but because of the high number of both real world practice approaches flown in the STA (Shuttle Training Aircraft - the Gulfstream in the presentation) and the simulator, the question was less whether or not you'd land, but how close to centerline you could get when the nosewheel touched down.

Also, NASA didn't advertise it much, but the STAs had another duty. On landing day, an STA with the mission's backup crew aboard would fly multiple approaches in the time leading up to the landing to get data for the STS approach (things like wind shifts, turbulence, etc) with the last approach being conducted less than 15 minutes before the STS arrived. The STS was also usually escorted in formation by at least 1 T-38 and sometimes even an STA from the Heading Alignment Cone to touchdown as an extra set of eyes for the crew to verify that everything was working right in that critical last minute of flight.

[ToniH]

I think the Space Cowboys style shuttle landing is still the best