Hi.
My guesses for possible mystery aircraft.
1/. AC980
2/. DA42
4/. C337
regards alan.
The secret airplane in development
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Re: The secret airplane in development
What can get to 18,000 in four minutes and won't stall at 90 kts and has either a turbo prop or jet engine? That's pretty impressive no matter what it is. Also, they are wearing oxygen masks so it's not pressurized.
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Re: The secret airplane in development
So here are a few thoughts...
1. Remember that as an aircraft ascends to higher altitudes, the engines (yes even gas turbines) loose performance. You will see a major decrease in indicated airspeed. But true airspeed increases quite significantly. So as long as this aircraft has a fairly straight wing, I see no reason it cannot be a jet engined aircraft. Basically meaning 90 is a real speed.
2. The timer may be time of useful conciseness. At 18- mid 20s, 5 minutes is realistic. Above that it can drop to 5 seconds or less.
Thought?
1. Remember that as an aircraft ascends to higher altitudes, the engines (yes even gas turbines) loose performance. You will see a major decrease in indicated airspeed. But true airspeed increases quite significantly. So as long as this aircraft has a fairly straight wing, I see no reason it cannot be a jet engined aircraft. Basically meaning 90 is a real speed.
2. The timer may be time of useful conciseness. At 18- mid 20s, 5 minutes is realistic. Above that it can drop to 5 seconds or less.
Thought?
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Re: The secret airplane in development
I don’t know about you guys but I’m thinking it’s a Huey helicopter. Just really mix thing up.
Re: The secret airplane in development
I'm thinking the timestamp of 4 minutes is a red herring, either intentional or not. It could be the start of a recording turned on during the flight. If A2A would need to record a whole flight, I doubt they'd start during the take off roll, but rather much earlier (engine start ish).bullfox wrote:What can get to 18,000 in four minutes and won't stall at 90 kts and has either a turbo prop or jet engine?
It could also be that these are sound recordings spliced together from different parts of the flight, but that the censored image is from a random spot.
This leads me to tentatively err on the side of this not neccesarily being an airplane for which 90 knots at 18k is normal (even for stall or slow flight).
This feels like forensics. Anybody able to glean any more info from those precious seconds? It feels almost like the Zapruder-film.
Erik Haugan Aasland,
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Arendal, Norway
(Homebase: Kristiansand Lufthavn, Kjevik (ENCN)
All the Accusim-planes are in my hangar, but they aren't sitting long enough for their engines to cool much before next flight!
Re: The secret airplane in development
Here's to thinking outside the parcel.metaldesk44 wrote:I don’t know about you guys but I’m thinking it’s a Huey helicopter. Just really mix thing up.
Could it be a super-duper-Cub?
Erik Haugan Aasland,
Arendal, Norway
(Homebase: Kristiansand Lufthavn, Kjevik (ENCN)
All the Accusim-planes are in my hangar, but they aren't sitting long enough for their engines to cool much before next flight!
Arendal, Norway
(Homebase: Kristiansand Lufthavn, Kjevik (ENCN)
All the Accusim-planes are in my hangar, but they aren't sitting long enough for their engines to cool much before next flight!
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I feel like the conversation is all taking place at once. The breathing seems to flow with the convo and the trainer responds to the call out by the pilot. Now, the fact that they say “I have the aircraft†“you have the aircraft†does that mean they are seated one in front of the other? That would seem to suggest some sort of military aircraft right? He does also mention set power and trim for 90kts, so probably not near a stall speed then?Medtner wrote:I'm thinking the timestamp of 4 minutes is a red herring, either intentional or not. It could be the start of a recording turned on during the flight. If A2A would need to record a whole flight, I doubt they'd start during the take off roll, but rather much earlier (engine start ish).bullfox wrote:What can get to 18,000 in four minutes and won't stall at 90 kts and has either a turbo prop or jet engine?
It could also be that these are sound recordings spliced together from different parts of the flight, but that the censored image is from a random spot.
This leads me to tentatively err on the side of this not neccesarily being an airplane for which 90 knots at 18k is normal (even for stall or slow flight).
This feels like forensics. Anybody able to glean any more info from those precious seconds? It feels almost like the Zapruder-film.
Re: The secret airplane in development
To me it also feels like it's an actual snippet from a change of control, but it could be cleverly mixed to make that impression. You know Scott, he is a master of productions like these.metaldesk44 wrote:I feel like the conversation is all taking place at once. The breathing seems to flow with the convo and the trainer responds to the call out by the pilot. Now, the fact that they say “I have the aircraft†“you have the aircraft†does that mean they are seated one in front of the other? That would seem to suggest some sort of military aircraft right? He does also mention set power and trim for 90kts, so probably not near a stall speed then?Medtner wrote:I'm thinking the timestamp of 4 minutes is a red herring, either intentional or not. It could be the start of a recording turned on during the flight. If A2A would need to record a whole flight, I doubt they'd start during the take off roll, but rather much earlier (engine start ish).bullfox wrote:What can get to 18,000 in four minutes and won't stall at 90 kts and has either a turbo prop or jet engine?
It could also be that these are sound recordings spliced together from different parts of the flight, but that the censored image is from a random spot.
This leads me to tentatively err on the side of this not neccesarily being an airplane for which 90 knots at 18k is normal (even for stall or slow flight).
This feels like forensics. Anybody able to glean any more info from those precious seconds? It feels almost like the Zapruder-film.
I'd think that if -if- this is in fact a jet at 90kts 18k it would be a trainer configured for very slow flight, 5 knots or so above stall. This would make sense for research. A jet-trainer would make all kinds of sense before letting us have the big jets later. Crawl before walking before running.
Erik Haugan Aasland,
Arendal, Norway
(Homebase: Kristiansand Lufthavn, Kjevik (ENCN)
All the Accusim-planes are in my hangar, but they aren't sitting long enough for their engines to cool much before next flight!
Arendal, Norway
(Homebase: Kristiansand Lufthavn, Kjevik (ENCN)
All the Accusim-planes are in my hangar, but they aren't sitting long enough for their engines to cool much before next flight!
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Re: The secret airplane in development
Listen to this myth busters clip.. hear that sound inside the pressurized suit??
https://youtu.be/A0bwlQMch3s
Man if they bring the U2.....
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I bet they're making the ME-262 for IL-2 Bodenplatte!
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Possibly taking the Beaver up to her max altitude? Is it to late to give up hope on getting that?
Re: The secret airplane in development
I'm thinking the Areostar maybe... Or a Comanche 400. Scott said he owns one, but he did say that it was low priority so probably not. But maybe.msair wrote:Hi
I am missing a mention of the Piper Aerostar - or is this the secret project? 18000/90 also possible for the Aerostar.
Keep on waiting for a really good twin engined bird (non carabeo )
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Re: The secret airplane in development
Another clue, what client would insist on such secrecy?
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Re: The secret airplane in development
Indeed, that's an important clue. Who indeed?bullfox wrote:Another clue, what client would insist on such secrecy?
Erik Haugan Aasland,
Arendal, Norway
(Homebase: Kristiansand Lufthavn, Kjevik (ENCN)
All the Accusim-planes are in my hangar, but they aren't sitting long enough for their engines to cool much before next flight!
Arendal, Norway
(Homebase: Kristiansand Lufthavn, Kjevik (ENCN)
All the Accusim-planes are in my hangar, but they aren't sitting long enough for their engines to cool much before next flight!
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