Employee Drives Onto Runway

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Employee Drives Onto Runway

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Plane aborts takeoff after airport employee drives onto runway in Los Angeles LAX:

This kind of stuff happens to me in FSX all the time, especially on the parking ramp and taxiways!

https://gma.yahoo.com/plane-aborts-take ... ories.html

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Re: Employee Drives Onto Runway

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:shock: Glad the outcome was not more severe.

That's exactly the reason why I disabled crash detection in FSX because I had my precious Accusim planes wrecked by reckless FSX groundcrew :x :D
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Re: Employee Drives Onto Runway

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Hmmmmmm...... I wonder if this should have read....."former employee drives on runway."

Makes you wonder what the heck they were thinking!!

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Re: Employee Drives Onto Runway

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Runway Safety was on the NTSBs' "Most Wanted List" within the past few years. Incursions have been decreasing over recent years - except for this past year. :?

LAX is one airport that should have operating Runway Status Lights (FAA link). There's a couple vids on that page that show how they are being implemented to reduce runway incursions just like the above.

And it's not just aircraft that are involved in runway incursions...
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Re: Employee Drives Onto Runway

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Aren't vehicles that operate within the airport perimeter required to have the same com1 and com2 radios as aircraft?

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Depends, but typically if they operate on the controlled areas (taxiways and runways), then yes, they do have a set of radios and communicate on ground/tower frequency. Vehicles that are to be operated on the ramp/apron only don't typically have any means of communication outside what the ramp guy happens to have with him. This excludes pushbacks and tow tractors - these are used for aircraft movements and typically have a full set of comms even if (mainly) used only on apron area.

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Re: Employee Drives Onto Runway

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I'm with SgtMaj DevilDog. Definitely FORMER. I mean, hey, we DO got RTO and autobrake systems but I don't think you can use them above a certain speed...
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These happen every now and then, though not on the runways that often...not knowing the LAX layout nor where the guy was supposed to be going, it is hard to say how big the screw-up was.

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Re: Employee Drives Onto Runway

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Have no idea about civilian airports..........however, many years ago when I was still working on aircraft....if the ground vehicle did not have a radio's installed.......you could not proceed on or across any runway without at least a "go ahead" light from the tower. Can't remember the codes now......3 green perhaps?? But you had to hold tight until the signal was received. I would think something as simple as that would still apply.......especially in this day and age with former accidents and all.

Either way.......whoever was driving the vehicle made a major blunder that could have cost a bunch of lives and has no business in that line of work. To me.....it's one of those maybe just an accident.....but it will cost ya!

Just my opinion.

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Re: Employee Drives Onto Runway

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I just found this FAA Guide to Ground Vehicle Operations; A comprehensive guide to safe driving on the airport surface. Check out pg. 18 (pdf pg. 10); Light Gun Signals! Many years ago, when I was an aircraft mechanic working on the flightline/ramp, we had to have all ground movement signals from the tower memorized when operating a vehicle without a radio.

https://www.faa.gov/airports/runway_saf ... _Final.pdf

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