Hi all,
I have had the wish for a long while that when the Cherokee was released that I would fly it from A2A's home base (Robertson Field?) to my home airport, Kjevik (ENCN) in Norway.
Since release I've been flying patterns and some back and forth between Robertson Field and Simsbury to get to know the airplane (getting "checked out" in the new plane) - only got a few hours on it yet, so I'm not ready to go far yet.
I am however ready to start planning the trip across the pond.
Anyone with some experience in crossing the Atlantic with a single engine?
Transatlantic trip in single engine (Piper Cherokee)
Transatlantic trip in single engine (Piper Cherokee)
Erik Haugan Aasland,
Arendal, Norway
(Homebase: Kristiansand Lufthavn, Kjevik (ENCN)
All the Accusim-planes are in my hangar, but they aren't sitting long enough for their engines to cool much before next flight!
Arendal, Norway
(Homebase: Kristiansand Lufthavn, Kjevik (ENCN)
All the Accusim-planes are in my hangar, but they aren't sitting long enough for their engines to cool much before next flight!
Re: Transatlantic trip in single engine (Piper Cherokee)
B-377 wanted to do it single-engine style in a middle of a transatlantic flight.
Beside that, no experience
It should be a challenge to reach refueling airports, considering the relative small range of the PA-28.
Beside that, no experience
It should be a challenge to reach refueling airports, considering the relative small range of the PA-28.
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Re: Transatlantic trip in single engine (Piper Cherokee)
Haha. How did that trip go, with only one engine left on the Strat?
I thought that I'd be alone, and have some weight (passenger) to simulate a fuel drum. That is unless I find a clever flight plan so that standard fuel tanks would be enough.
I thought that I'd be alone, and have some weight (passenger) to simulate a fuel drum. That is unless I find a clever flight plan so that standard fuel tanks would be enough.
Erik Haugan Aasland,
Arendal, Norway
(Homebase: Kristiansand Lufthavn, Kjevik (ENCN)
All the Accusim-planes are in my hangar, but they aren't sitting long enough for their engines to cool much before next flight!
Arendal, Norway
(Homebase: Kristiansand Lufthavn, Kjevik (ENCN)
All the Accusim-planes are in my hangar, but they aren't sitting long enough for their engines to cool much before next flight!
Re: Transatlantic trip in single engine (Piper Cherokee)
Erik,
When the A2A Cub came out, figuring out how to cross the Atlantic was one the first challenges I put it through.
The early part of this story shows the route I took. I should have the actual airport list up in a few moments.
http://a2asimulations.com/forum/viewtop ... rld+flight
Added:
This part of the log covers the Atlantic crossing stops.
The Cherokee would make for a great round the world travel adventure.
When the A2A Cub came out, figuring out how to cross the Atlantic was one the first challenges I put it through.
The early part of this story shows the route I took. I should have the actual airport list up in a few moments.
http://a2asimulations.com/forum/viewtop ... rld+flight
Added:
This part of the log covers the Atlantic crossing stops.
The Cherokee would make for a great round the world travel adventure.
Re: Transatlantic trip in single engine (Piper Cherokee)
I'm about to cross the atlantic in the 172, my route is as follows:
BGKK - BIKF - BIEG - EKVG - EGPE
BGKK - BIKF - BIEG - EKVG - EGPE
Re: Transatlantic trip in single engine (Piper Cherokee)
You know that would be interesting if A2A could create a ferry fuel bladder mod for the Cherokee/172 ala the B-17
http://www.turtlepac.com/en/photo-galle ... tanks.html
Of course we might be crazy to sit in a Cherokee with ferry tank range..that would be a LOOOOONG flight...
http://www.turtlepac.com/en/photo-galle ... tanks.html
Of course we might be crazy to sit in a Cherokee with ferry tank range..that would be a LOOOOONG flight...
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Re: Transatlantic trip in single engine (Piper Cherokee)
I flew the C172 I bought in FSE west across the Atlantic. Flew up to BGGH before flying to Canada as I wanted to pick up assignments for each flight. I didn't have GPS in the plane and had to rely on VOR and ADF, plus a little dead reckoning for the dead zones.
EGPM → EKVG
EKVG → BIHN
BIVM → BIKF
BGKK → BGBW
BGBW → BGGH
BGGH → CYFB
BIHN and BGKK both had terrible visibility and high winds. BIHN took me about 30 minutes to finally find the runway and land. Even with a runway aligned NDB, the crosswind component made approaching very hard, and the headwind made timing the descent from the NDB as good as a guess. my first attempt missed the runway by less than half a mile but I still didn't spot it. My second attempt was worse. Returning to the NDB for a third try I spotted the runway lights on my left and was able to make a landing (a very poor one). BGKK also required an NDB approach but conditions were less severe and I made it in first time.
So, make sure you have reserves for the end of those long flights. Not just extra fuel but also make sure you aren't fatigued. It was so tempting to just land on the first patch of open dirt in those terrible conditions, but I persevered. Fuel pressures and fatigue would not have helped.
EGPM → EKVG
EKVG → BIHN
BIVM → BIKF
BGKK → BGBW
BGBW → BGGH
BGGH → CYFB
BIHN and BGKK both had terrible visibility and high winds. BIHN took me about 30 minutes to finally find the runway and land. Even with a runway aligned NDB, the crosswind component made approaching very hard, and the headwind made timing the descent from the NDB as good as a guess. my first attempt missed the runway by less than half a mile but I still didn't spot it. My second attempt was worse. Returning to the NDB for a third try I spotted the runway lights on my left and was able to make a landing (a very poor one). BGKK also required an NDB approach but conditions were less severe and I made it in first time.
So, make sure you have reserves for the end of those long flights. Not just extra fuel but also make sure you aren't fatigued. It was so tempting to just land on the first patch of open dirt in those terrible conditions, but I persevered. Fuel pressures and fatigue would not have helped.
Re: Transatlantic trip in single engine (Piper Cherokee)
Transatlantic ferry routes:-
http://220kts.com/ferry-flights/atlanti ... outes.html
The second one would suit the C172 and Cherokee, I think.
http://220kts.com/ferry-flights/atlanti ... outes.html
The second one would suit the C172 and Cherokee, I think.
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Re: Transatlantic trip in single engine (Piper Cherokee)
Great post Paul thanks for the link. Have any of you chaps see the tv series dangerous flights? It's about aircraft ferry pilots and although it's got the usual over dramatisation of some parts it is IMO a must watch for aeroplane fans.
Thanks,
Lewis
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Re: Transatlantic trip in single engine (Piper Cherokee)
Great info every one. I was a little worried about the leg from Goose Bay over to Greenland. I see this one above is probably better. I'm fully able to get around 800nm range, as I'm alone in the plane, but I want to be on the safer side.Paul K wrote:Transatlantic ferry routes:-
http://220kts.com/ferry-flights/atlanti ... outes.html
The second one would suit the C172 and Cherokee, I think.
I'm on my way from Bangor to Goose Bay right now, having starter my first leg from Robertson Field yesterday.
Erik Haugan Aasland,
Arendal, Norway
(Homebase: Kristiansand Lufthavn, Kjevik (ENCN)
All the Accusim-planes are in my hangar, but they aren't sitting long enough for their engines to cool much before next flight!
Arendal, Norway
(Homebase: Kristiansand Lufthavn, Kjevik (ENCN)
All the Accusim-planes are in my hangar, but they aren't sitting long enough for their engines to cool much before next flight!
Re: Transatlantic trip in single engine (Piper Cherokee)
I've seen the odd episode or two. It's a cool series, and partially why I'm ferrying the Cherokee from Robertson Field to Kjevik.Lewis - A2A wrote:Great post Paul thanks for the link. Have any of you chaps see the tv series dangerous flights? It's about aircraft ferry pilots and although it's got the usual over dramatisation of some parts it is IMO a must watch for aeroplane fans.
Thanks,
Lewis
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Erik Haugan Aasland,
Arendal, Norway
(Homebase: Kristiansand Lufthavn, Kjevik (ENCN)
All the Accusim-planes are in my hangar, but they aren't sitting long enough for their engines to cool much before next flight!
Arendal, Norway
(Homebase: Kristiansand Lufthavn, Kjevik (ENCN)
All the Accusim-planes are in my hangar, but they aren't sitting long enough for their engines to cool much before next flight!
Re: Transatlantic trip in single engine (Piper Cherokee)
I've seen every episode. I love that series!Lewis - A2A wrote:Great post Paul thanks for the link. Have any of you chaps see the tv series dangerous flights? It's about aircraft ferry pilots and although it's got the usual over dramatisation of some parts it is IMO a must watch for aeroplane fans.
Thanks,
Lewis
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Re: Transatlantic trip in single engine (Piper Cherokee)
I haven't seen it but that's because, leading a television-free life, I'm just not aware of it. I'll definitely look it up and see if I can watch any of it online or on a dvd maybe. Cheers matey!Lewis - A2A wrote: Have any of you chaps see the tv series dangerous flights? It's about aircraft ferry pilots and although it's got the usual over dramatisation of some parts it is IMO a must watch for aeroplane fans.
Re: Transatlantic trip in single engine (Piper Cherokee)
Paul,
I also don't have a TV, but I know that Season One can be found online. It is worth a look!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bxJGF1mFul4
Just from episode 1 to the end of the season.
JP
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I also don't have a TV, but I know that Season One can be found online. It is worth a look!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bxJGF1mFul4
Just from episode 1 to the end of the season.
JP
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Re: Transatlantic trip in single engine (Piper Cherokee)
Just found this post - actually I'm just flying this trip. From Vero Beach to Essen, Germany. I'm currently flying north along the east coast and then plan to cross from Cartwright (CYCA) to Narsarsuaq (BGBW) from there to Kulusuk (BGKK) and then to Keflavik...
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