Flaps efect

[capiMD]

Hi, congratulations for the Bonanza, it is rely amazing but i think there not a well archived effect when deploy flaps. Not an increased lift effect at all when change de 0 flaps to full down.
is possible to add that in the next update? and is possible to add a radioaltimeter too?
Thanks.

[Oracle427]

What is wrong with the flaps?

[capiMD]

Hi, not significative drag effect and not at all lift effect at deploying flaps to up to full down ( in the air= airborn)
Is possible in the next update change this.

Thanks.

[Oracle427]

Do you have particular speeds and power settings vs configurations to help A2A diagnose the issue you are seeing?

For example, level at 90 knots at 2100 rpm with 10 degrees of flaps...

[nojwod]

Well, when I'm in the circuit for landing in the Bonanza, and I have selected flaps, pretty quickly I need to add a bit of power to avoid going too slow. I must admit I haven't done any tests of flaps vs no flaps but I seriously doubt A2A would not be modelling the correct behaviour.

With the higher wing loading of the Bonanza and different airfoil compared to the Cessnas and the Pipers, it's quite probable there's very little of the ballooning you get in other aircraft.

The following is an extract from a publication 'Flying the Beech Bonanza' from 1997:

In this section we discuss some experiments conducted in an
A36 involving changes in gear, flap, and power settings. We begin
with the flaps.
We reduce power to idle, extend the landing gear, and trim for
78 KIAS with the flaps up. The flaps are then extended, while we use
one hand on the yoke and no trim change to maintain airspeed at 78
KIAS. CAR 3.13101, under which the Bonanza was certificated,
requires that this be possible without “the exertion of more control
force than can be readily applied with one hand for a short period.”
The A36 passes with flying colors—the stick force is zero. The sink
rate, incidently, stabilized at 800 feet per minute. Had we made an
effort to reduce airspeed in proportion to the declining stall speed, the
required aft stick force would still be quite light. If we reverse the
above exercise, starting with flaps out and then retract them, again we
find only negligible stick forces required to hold airspeed.
The effect of power on stick force and trim is checked as
follows: (CAR 3.13101(b)(1)) With power at idle, flaps retracted,
gear extended, and trimmed for 78 KIAS, we add full power and use
one hand to maintain airspeed. A fair amount of forward pressure on
the yoke is required, but, subjectively, it feels as if a pilot of average
strength could easily manage the force. Checking the trim required,
we note that the exercise starts with +14.5 degrees trim, and if we
trim the force out it requires a setting of +10.5 degrees trim. If we
repeat the above exercise with flaps down the required push feels
about the same.

[capiMD]

yes, all is true, but there not at last a minimal felling of ballooning at all.
Bonanza v35B is a very well done simulation, but it is always possible to improve!!!

Thanks

[Oracle427]

While flying neat the top of the white arc, if you hold a level pitch attitude (not maintain altitude) and don't change power power immediately after adding flaps, what does the altimeter do? I don't own the V35 (ashamed), but that will tell you if it does balloon.

[capiMD]

not ballooning at all only drag.