Learning to fly the Connie

[flapman]

I'd also suggest you add HAM 113.1 to your route. When you take off you're likely going to be too low and too far to receive DLE. But you can receive HAM. I would proceed either directly to HAM after takeoff, or I would fly to intercept the HAM 186 Radial and then proceed south. That way you can be on an accurate course to DLE even before you ever receive it. We need to take "service volumes" into account when choosing a route that doesn't rely on airways.

[trisho0]

Why do you think PlanG is slow? Many people use it.

So far I remember Paul commented about time ago, not sure. So, I could give a try to find out.
Bad for me to be installed EZCA3 now uninstalled and restoring files from both sim FSX and P3Dv4.5 so will take me busy a while. (lol)

[trisho0]

I'd also suggest you add HAM 113.1 to your route. When you take off you're likely going to be too low and too far to receive DLE. But you can receive HAM. I would proceed either directly to HAM after takeoff, or I would fly to intercept the HAM 186 Radial and then proceed south. That way you can be on an accurate course to DLE even before you ever receive it. We need to take "service volumes" into account when choosing a route that doesn't rely on airways.

Uh! that's is very helpful. Do you mean the idea is to pick the closer waypoint VOR not the DME right? I will take a look from SkyVector to find HAM
EDIT: Just found HAM from Skyvector but that is not a VOR and not DME neither. That's new for me I guess is NDB and I have change the VOR Connie switch selector to RMI?

[TreeTops]

https://www.theairlinepilots.com/forum/ ... f=31&t=717
HAM is a VORTAC which a combination VOR for civilian and military aircraft. The NDB has a cloud of dots surrounding it.
You are correct to switch the RMI to LF when using NDB as a nav source.
The Dual RMI is a very handy instrument. The flight plan can be - airport, VOR, VOR, NDB, VOR, NDB, NDB, VORTAC, VOR, airport.
Just by switching between VOR and LF you can follow navaids to reach the destination.

[trisho0]

https://www.theairlinepilots.com/forum/ ... f=31&t=717
HAM is a VORTAC which a combination VOR for civilian and military aircraft. The NDB has a cloud of dots surrounding it.
You are correct to switch the RMI to LF when using NDB as a nav source.
The Dual RMI is a very handy instrument. The flight plan can be - airport, VOR, VOR, NDB, VOR, NDB, NDB, VORTAC, VOR, airport.
Just by switching between VOR and LF you can follow navaids to reach the destination.

I understood now HAM is VORTAC symbol from the map, cool! I will keep in mind the use of the Dual RMI switch selector with another FPL, good idea to practice that too.
This matters of navigation really is amazing! I saved the chart symbols to learn that. Now I can understand much better some of the contents of the navigation map.
I appreciate your lessons so much.

[trisho0]

I did a new FPL with SkyVector EDDH-LSZH not a success. The waypoints were as:
EDDH course 063
HAM 113.10/186
SAS 114.45/185
FUL 112.10/193
TRA 114.30/160
LSZH
Connie got lost in space (lol).

Another FPL done was EDFE-EHAM and lost in space too:
EDFE course 355
FFM 114.20/316
COL 108.80/315
PAM 117.80/263
EHAM

I will check with Plan-G instead of SkyVector to find out.

[Jacques]

Its always a good idea to check your Skyvector FP in your flightsim platform - the information in P3D/FSX is essentially a snapshot that may or may not be accurate with the up-to-date information you get with Skyvector.

[trisho0]

Its always a good idea to check your Skyvector FP in your flightsim platform - the information in P3D/FSX is essentially a snapshot that may or may not be accurate with the up-to-date information you get with Skyvector.

Checking the SkyVector FPL in the sim? Before I created a FPL directly from the sim as well but the waypoints info is totally different. Also I was using GPS before and it was working just fine with FPL from sim. The waypoints from SkyVector should be OK but the plane gets lost on airborne. I will explore Plan-G to find out.

[flapman]

have you read and flown the FSX VOR lesson yet?

[trisho0]

have you read and flown the FSX VOR lesson yet?

I am going to do that right now ...

[flapman]

I will fly your EDDH-LSZH flight using your posted flightplan and report back.

EDIT:
Preflight Planning:
Distance between Fulda FUL 112.10 and Trasadingen TRA 114.30 is 180nm which is too far between stations. You will loose reception between them. That's not a big problem if you have to deal with it (you usually don't), but I see two VORs which will be perfect to add to the route. I add Karlsruhe KRH 115.95 and your flightplan is now:

FUL 112.10/200@103nm
KRH 115.95/191@80nm
TRA 114.30/160@15nm

I also have to replace SAS with DLE 115.20 because of the FSX database. I found this just by bringing up the FSX map, and panning along my route of flight looking for my navigation aids. I found all of them but SAS. This isn't a realistic process but a simulator concession.

I have further modified the route to comply with IFR (specifically, I have planned to the RILAX intersection(IAF)) because I'm flying this route at night and Zurich is mountainous. trisho0 you can ignore RILAX and the instrument approaches until you gain further experience with basic navigation. They come later.

[Jacques]

Well, right off I can see that SAS doesn’t exist in P3D/ FSX. Instead you’re offered DLE (LEINE)at 115.20 which in real life on Skyvector now a NDB. That highlights my point: Skyvector is great as a start, but that is current data. FSX/P3D are operating on old data, so you need to double check your navaids in P3D/ FSX to make sure they are valid.

[trisho0]

From Skyvector, KRH doesn't tell me course and nm distance so what about next:

EDDH /179@83nm
SAS 114.45/184@100nm
FUL 112.10/183@101nm
LBU 109.20/205@82nm
TRA 114.30/160@15nm
LSZH

I didn't have problem with SAS station.

[trisho0]

This is the video EDFE-EHAM and lost in airborne:
EDFE course 355
FFM 114.20/316
COL 108.80/315
PAM 117.80/263
EHAM

https://drive.google.com/file/d/16eJG6a ... sp=sharing

[flapman]

I'm currently unloading passengers in Zurich, I'll have to watch the video later today.

Did you read and fly that FSX lesson yet?