Navigation

[ionasm]

Hello Captains,

So how do you navigate this aircraft if you don't have a GPS, in order to go from A to B?

Regards,

[minibikerider]

I'm with you on that one. I really couldn't do a flight with the 377 because of the lack of knowing on how to navigate.

[ROB - A2A]

One can use VOR and/or NDB navigation. DME is also available.

regards
ROB

[MarcE]

and if there are no clouds you can still watch out for rivers, coastlines etc.. VFR was a big part those days... and reading your speed gives you an idea about your ground speed. A stop watch and a map were not worse than a GPS moving map today. simply not that comfortable.

[alan CXA651]

Hi.
Also you need to look at what the navigator is telling you regards wind/grd spd for corrections because you are not always in range of vor/dme signals , but if you use the sims flight planner , then a red line appears on the map , you just need to turn the maps airways off so it shows more clearly , so its then easier to follow.
regards alan.

[Nico]

I'm with you on that one. I really couldn't do a flight with the 377 because of the lack of knowing on how to navigate.

How about learning some new tricks? Like basic radio navigation? Or cel....okay, wrong guy. Anyway, it baffles me how many people are totally lost without a GPS! How could we ever do without it?

[Aymi]

Just create a flight plan in FS (or AS16 or whatever you want) with the "VOR to VOR" option. Then open the navlog and note the VOR frequencies somewhere (or consult it in flight using the default FS tablet).

Now all you have to do is enter the successive frequencies in the NAV radio panel and follow the needles

[Medtner]

I absolutely love VFR navigation with paper charts (I have tonnes of them, and I buy new ones if I need to spend time in a new area of the world).

VOR and NDB-navigation is very satisfactory, but also the picking up of visual cues on the ground. I learn so much geography from looking out of the windows while handflying around.

Handflying - because I don't want to become the 747 captain that couldn't fly (as told by Mitch in the manual to the Piper Cub).

[Nico]

Anyway, for the FMC kids out there, here's an excellent free source to learn the ropes:

http://flybetter.com.au/book-three-second-edition

[triflyman]

When the Connie was first introduced most of the commercial flights were still using LFRR (Low Frequency Radio Ranges) until VOR's became more numerous in the 50's. Milviz just released their T-50 Bobcat with LFRR capability. Several people have asked they release that feature as a stand-alone. There was one for FS9 but does not work in FSX. If you would like to fly LFRR go to the Milviz forum and put in your request.

[Alan_A]

@nico - that book is a fantastic resource.

Alternative$ include Instrument Flying, by Richard L. Taylor: Weather Flying, by Robert Buck, and the FAA's Instrument Flying Handbook, all available through Amazon. But nico's reference covers all the bases really nicely.

There are also two excellent Kindle books by Hal Stoen.

When I was a flightsim youth, 30-plus years ago, I relied on this one, too. It predates GPS, so it's a good resource.

Fun craft to learn. Enjoy!

[Nico]

I should also point out that on the same site there are more books available by the same author, covering other aspects of avation. All of them are excellent.
http://flybetter.com.au

[Great Ozzie]

the FAA's Instrument Flying Handbook, all available through Amazon.

That can be downloaded for free from the FAA's Aviation Handbooks & Manuals page (fwiw).

[bobsk8]

Learn how to Navigate like everyone that has a Private Pilot's license has to do. That is what makes aviation and flying interesting, you have to learn something. to do it.

[Great Ozzie]

Learn how to Navigate like everyone that has a Private Pilot's license has to do. That is what makes aviation and flying interesting, you have to learn something. to do it.

Dead Reckoning... yes. Pilotage is going to be tougher for an aircraft such as this.

One can use VOR and/or NDB navigation. DME is also available.

This is exactly what we were doing prior to GPS in General Aviation. Once I used LORAN - otherwise mainly VOR to VOR with the possibility of an NDB approach.