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Re: Installed 182, now no A2A airplanes work correctly

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I did as you asked. Uninstalled and deleted all I could find, even the start menu file, and shut down. Re-installed and ran the 05-11-20 updater, 172 shows in the FSX menu, but crashes FSX when selected. Fatal error.
Where can I send you some screenshots so you can see what happens on install?
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Hello Chris,

You can attach screenshot to your posts using the "attachments" tab below the message window.

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Re: Installed 182, now no A2A airplanes work correctly

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Update, now I deleted all again as before, and reinstalled but did not run any update, and the 172 works. However, no configurator in the menu, and had to delete the RXP file from the aircraft folder to get the regular radios to work. Flew the VOR 14 at KTNU using the A/P and all worked as expected.
Now, I cannot find my original installer from when I bought the 172 years ago. The one I DL'd from the store says Version 2.0. Can I assume that the latest installer would have the latest core aircraft with all the fixes to date, and wouldn't need the update? Or is this the same aircraft I bought then, and needs updated to the current version?
Nick, there a quite a few pics, can I send a zip file to you somewhere?
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Thanks for the update Chris. I suppose it's possible that something in the latest core update has broken compatibility with Windows XP. As I mentioned earlier, we don't test updates and new products aren't against this operating system. The tools used to compile various parts of the product such as code and aircraft models may now include security features no longer supported by Windows XP. This is just one of the pitfalls of using an operating system which isn't support by Microsoft.

The 172 Version 2.0 installer for FSX doesn't included all of the latest updates. I believe it dates back to about 2015, but as you'll see, the latest FSX update which affected the 172 was released in 2019.

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P.S. It might be worth uploading the screenshots to DropBox or similar if you think they'll help.
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I don't use dropbox.
I found the installer for my T-6 from 2016, but it still says fatal error when I select it. So basically, I am just SOL here aren't I?
I still don't understand what was changed that prevents my sims that did work, from working now, on exactly the same system. Everything worked just fine until I installed the 182. What could it possibly have changed on my system?
Literally, the only change I made before the 182 was buying the Carenado Seneca V. And the A2A aircraft worked after that. Otherwise, I have not downloaded/installed/upgraded hardware, no changes to this computer in years.
So basically you are saying that unless I get a new computer I can't have my sims back.
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Here are some shots, Nick.
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Re: Installed 182, now no A2A airplanes work correctly

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And some more.
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This is what the updater does on every aircraft it finds. Did it last night with the 172 install you asked me to try (update 05-20)
This is what the updater does on every aircraft it finds. Did it last night with the 172 install you asked me to try (update 05-20)
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Re: Installed 182, now no A2A airplanes work correctly

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And some more.
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Now this from last night.
Now this from last night.
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After the first re-install attempt earlier this month.
After the first re-install attempt earlier this month.
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Chris,

The important thing for you to understand is that security and programming protocols used for software distributed via the internet move on. Just because an application worked when you connected your Windows XP machine to the internet 10 years ago, doesn't mean it will do now.

Your screenshots show it's the Microsoft DirectX runtime installation which is failing. This is a web installer package bundled with the A2A products, but it's actually provided by Microsoft themselves.

As I've mentioned, they don't support Windows XP any more. In fact, Windows Vista, Windows 7, and Windows 8, all of which followed XP are no longer supported either.

The only thing I can try is sending you a zip file with the latest Accu-Sim core files for FSX. However, given the DirectX9 installation issue pictured, I certainly can't guarantee this'll solve your problem.

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Re: Installed 182, now no A2A airplanes work correctly

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I understand that, but if I use the original installer that did work, why would it not work now? The T-6 will not work at all. The installer is from 2016. So the DirectX SDK would be from 2016. And they worked. Now they don't.
Please send me the zip, I will try anything at this point.
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Re: Installed 182, now no A2A airplanes work correctly

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As I say Chris, the installers include the DirectX web installer package from Microsoft. Being a "web installer" means it connects to resources on the internet when it runs. Because your operating system is no longer supported, these resources no longer seem to be compatible with XP.

Similarly the Accu-Sim update is a web installer, so not surprising that it no longer works properly with XP.

I'll put together that zip file though, and send you a PM with a link in a bit.

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Re: Installed 182, now no A2A airplanes work correctly

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I understand, but now I have to ask. You've seen the screenshot of my desktop. I have a LOT of simulations installed. If I install this zip, is it going to do ANYTHING to my other simulations? I'm afraid to install anything now.
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It won't have any effect on any other add-ons or software. It's just a way for you to manually copy and paste some files included in the updates as a way to bypass the automatic updater.

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Re: Installed 182, now no A2A airplanes work correctly

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Thank you, I will try that.
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Okay, I've just send you a PM with a link to the file.

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