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 Post subject: Pilot's notes
PostPosted: Mon Aug 11, 2014 4:09 am 
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Hi there

I just found a page with instructions on how to handle this magnificent plane from a modern day pilot. I think it might be helpful.
http://www.haa-uk.aero/pilots-notes-detail.php?pn-id=16
I love this plane. I would like to see it accusimmed in the future although it would be very demanding aircraft.
Thanks Lucas and Stiz for your excellent job


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 Post subject: Re: Pilot's notes
PostPosted: Mon Aug 11, 2014 4:54 am 
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Hello,

thank you very much for your link. Very useful reading.
Yes, an Accusim study of a rotary engine powered plane would be very nice and Avro is a very good test bed for that. Maybe one day... But it would require to have an access to such plane :/
Thank you for your kind words!

Lucas


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 Post subject: Re: Pilot's notes
PostPosted: Mon Aug 11, 2014 5:10 am 
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And we'd have to completly reworked the "throttle" system :)

Here is a very nice YT video about operating a rotary engine in Camel:

http://youtu.be/70IWIu2l-5k


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 Post subject: Re: Pilot's notes
PostPosted: Mon Aug 11, 2014 6:04 am 
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Great link thankyou for sharing. And yes the old aircraft had some shall we say interesting ways of operation when looked at in today's context of standard throttles etc.

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Lewis

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 Post subject: Re: Pilot's notes
PostPosted: Mon Aug 11, 2014 2:51 pm 
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What a great bit of reading, thank you very much for sharing that!

As Ken Cassens would say, who used to fly the Old Rhinebeck Avro 504K quite a bit, it is an easy airplane to fly (very stable - essentially a kite), but the engine is very temperamental and the pilot is essentially the engine's carburetor. As described, the pilot has at hand the 'block tube' (animated in these aircraft as the throttle), the 'fine adjustment' (animated in these aircraft as the mixture), and an air pressure pump, which you have to pump-up prior to start, prior to take-off, and then as needed, in order to keep 2.5-4 pounds of pressure.

I recall reading about the famous Frank Tallman and his adventures in operating an original WWI Sopwith Camel he owned (which still survives today). He was faced with having to dead-stick it into fields a few different times he flew it, as the Clerget rotary would quit in-flight, and he wouldn't be able to get it started again. Thus it sounds like he was experiencing a 'rich cut' as described in the pilots notes linked to.

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 Post subject: Re: Pilot's notes
PostPosted: Mon Aug 11, 2014 4:28 pm 
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This reading is just fascinating. Again, I hope that it will be possible to make a study of a rotary engine in the FSX sooner or later.


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 Post subject: Re: Pilot's notes
PostPosted: Sun Aug 17, 2014 3:25 pm 
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Some new links. Kermit Weeks's footage showing flying the Sopwith Snipe using some GoPro style camera. Nicely done! It's highly recommended to watch his other footages, including flying an Albatros D.Va.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fUQCqSw-Yds

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q3eMO7tjBoc

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MHS1mv08qw8


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