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PostPosted: Tue Jan 17, 2012 1:20 am 
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BULLITIN : ALL A2A PILOTS , on January 20th 2012 - from Famous Director George Lucas, comes the Epic WW-II Fighter Pilot Movie, with Hundreds upon Hundreds of Vintage WW-II Fighter Aircraft & Bombers , soon at a Movie Theater near you Jan/ 20th 2012 . See Movie Preview here -------} http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wityJA7DlII

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 17, 2012 12:58 pm 
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It's announced here too:

http://a2asimulations.com/forum/viewtop ... 23&t=27925

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 17, 2012 4:38 pm 
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And here:

viewtopic.php?f=23&t=26907&hilit=Red+Tails

And here:

viewtopic.php?f=23&t=26051&hilit=Red+Tails

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PostPosted: Wed Jan 18, 2012 9:29 am 
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 18, 2012 9:56 am 
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I have been leery of George Lucas in the last ten years or so. After seeing how his company handles copyrights and sales, and further his rather embarrassing last few movies, I'm not holding my breath for this particular one. It is always good in Hollywood to "spruce things up" for dramatic appeal, but I fear George Lucas is simply getting out of touch with reality and historical accuracy..... actually, come to think of it, accuracy and George Lucas are things that one does not think of combined to begin with.

I may watch it, but I likely won't be paying to go to a theater to see it. I would be curious to hear the reports of those who do see it however.

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PostPosted: Wed Jan 18, 2012 10:16 am 
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Well, I'm more anxious about this one:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sftuxbvGwiU

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PostPosted: Wed Jan 18, 2012 10:19 am 
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Royale_Adio wrote:
Well, I'm more anxious about this one:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sftuxbvGwiU

That's another Aliens movie, right? A "prequel" if I heard right?

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CodyValkyrie wrote:
Royale_Adio wrote:
Well, I'm more anxious about this one:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sftuxbvGwiU

That's another Aliens movie, right? A "prequel" if I heard right?



It's set in the same universe but the "Xenomorphs" will not be in it.

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PostPosted: Wed Jan 18, 2012 7:42 pm 
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Andysim wrote:
George Lucas = CGI


well to be fair .. how else are they gonna do it, also give the guy a little credit, hes mostly funded this one himself!


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PostPosted: Thu Jan 19, 2012 12:34 am 
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Andysim wrote:
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And?

1) There are 4 P-51B/C aircraft still flying. 2 of them are painted as Red Tails aircraft, "Ina the Macon Belle" of the Collings Foundation, and "Red Tail" of the Commemorative Air Force. For insurance purposes, these aircraft are valued at somewhere around $5 million apiece, however if one was lost, there are no replacements. Red Tail just got restored after being belly landed back almost a decade ago, killing the pilot. I doubt they'd be able to do it again. Additionally, the aircraft cost upwards of $2000/hr to operate. Flying the kind of scenes required also risks blowing an engine, which costs well over $100,000 to replace/overhaul.

2) There are *NO* airworthy early model P-40s flying.

3) There are a few early T-6's flying, but very few and again, because they're rare, they're very valuable.

4) The FW-190 and Bf-109 are even more rare aircraft.

4) The insurance coverage required for live air-to-air filming is exorbitant and that's *IF the operators are willing to even risk their airplanes in such operations, especially air-to-air that requires air combat maneuvering, something very few operators will risk.

In the end, CGI is the only way to go if you want to make a film like this. It's just not financially feasible to do it with the real airplanes if you could actually get them. Tora! Tora! Tora! will go down in history as the last time Hollywood could afford to make a mass of replica aircraft for a movie because at the time, there was a glut of aircraft to do it with. Since then, even most of the Tora aircraft have been scrapped or crashed.

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BTW, I'm kinda biased in all this, I've met more than a couple of Tuskegee Airmen over the years and the amount of support that Mr. Lucas has been giving them since the project began and the benefits the cast has been doing in preparation for the movie release has been very heartwarming. In addition, the production has arranged a tickets for donations exchange with the CAF's Red Tail squadron to help raise funds for the "Rise Above!" traveling exhibit that they have put together that honors the legacy of these heroes.

http://www.redtail.org/news-and-events/

http://www.redtail.org/

BTW, yes, Bradford Lang, the CAF Red Tail Squadron leader and a pilot of "Red Tail", is the son of a Tuskegee Airman.

Also, if you read down the News & Events page, you'll see Brad accepting an ICAS award this year with one of the Red Tails producers and one of the cast members. Additionally, you'll see one of the posts they made helping to spread the word about the movie.

No matter what you may think of Mr. Lucas, consider the fact that the men whom it's about are supporting it and want it to be a success to help continue spreading the word to the general public about who they were and what they did. That's a cause I'll gladly give my money to every time.

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 19, 2012 7:27 am 
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These men were and are Heroes. Like all men and women who laid and continue to lay their life on the line in our armed forces for us to enjoy our freedom, they deserve to have their tale told over and over again. Whether the telling comes from Hollywood I care not as long as they are not forgotten. They fought not only an evil regime but they also fought for the right to fight. Heroes.
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Charlie Alpha wrote:
These men were and are Heroes. Like all men and women who laid and continue to lay their life on the line in our armed forces for us to enjoy our freedom, they deserve to have their tale told over and over again. Whether the telling comes from Hollywood I care not as long as they are not forgotten. They fought not only an evil regime but they also fought for the right to fight. Heroes.
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if you read the History of the Tuskegee airmen. They never lost a bomber to enemy aircraft. The Bombers may have been hit, But they always made it home....And under the escort of a redtail.
Plus when bomber crews started to request them for air support, that alone should tell of their war record....These men may have been colored pilots in a time when race played a major role in our military....But none the less They are HEROS, and who cares if Lucas gives them some Hollywood glitter....
These men were soldiers and pilots doing an impossible job in an impossible time.
We should never forget any soldier from any campaign or any war.
My Brotherinlaw was a belly gunner in a B-17. He once told me that when the crews seen the red tails come up everyone showed signs of releaf, and felt they were their best chance of getting home from the mission....
My hats off the these men, and to all our service men and women.....May they all come home, and none ever forgoten.


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PostPosted: Sat Jan 28, 2012 10:40 am 
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CAPFlyer wrote:
Andysim wrote:
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2) There are *NO* airworthy early model P-40s flying.



That is incorrect! Duxford has a flying Curtiss P-40B, Flying Heritage Collection, in Everett Washington have a flying P-40C http://www.flyingheritage.com/TemplatePlane.aspx?contentId=8, there is too a flying P-40C in New Zealand (owned and flown by a man named John Lamont). Only 199 P-40's were built, and the P-40A was a one-off with a reconaissance camera; so I'd say a P-40B and P-40C count as early-model planes.

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PostPosted: Sun Jan 29, 2012 12:03 am 
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trucker17 wrote:
if you read the History of the Tuskegee airmen. They never lost a bomber to enemy aircraft. The Bombers may have been hit, But they always made it home....And under the escort of a redtail.


Well that is a myth the 332nd FG did lose some bombers.
See the paper The NINE MYTHS about the TUSKEGEE AIRMEN ,. A paper written by Dr. Daniel L. Haulman PhD. ,Dated 21 Oct 2011.
In .pdf

http://www.tuskegee.edu/sites/www/Uploads/files/About%20US/Airmen/Nine_Myths_About_the_Tuskegee_Airmen.pdf

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