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PostPosted: Tue Nov 22, 2011 5:51 am 
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After Reinstalling WOP3 Spit fire I can not get the Engine to start in any of the models
I have tried starting Automaticly I hear the engine trying to turn over the prop does not spin or turn Just puffs of white smoke
When I first purchased the Wop 3 Spit from The flight sim store the model had a fixed wooden prop and worked now I have re downloaded the spit has a 3 prop system and will not start another perculiarity is The rudders work (CH) The Elevators/Ailorans (Saitec Cyborg)Work BUT Not the Throttle (The same on your Cub) When I go into workshop for maitanance The battery engine/oilpump/brakes/gear infact everything is Shot and I have not made a flight I cannot repaire any of those problems I can replenish Oxygen/Oil But not the AirI have Cleaned out All files starting with WOP3. Removed All Orbix scenery just incase? Made a search for acu-sim data files nothin found
I have set everything to the book Made a test start with Default Cessna Still nothing
I use XP FsxDelux Service pack 1&2
I do not have the Accusim
Please help as this is B/frustrating
At the moment I'm Flying the Spit by RealAir when I want to fly the spit and A2As Cub when I want to fly the Cub
Cheers Mike aka chewit :cry:


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PostPosted: Tue Nov 22, 2011 8:05 am 
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have you checked your fuel? :)

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PostPosted: Tue Nov 22, 2011 8:18 am 
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Automixture off in the realism settings?

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PostPosted: Tue Nov 22, 2011 8:30 am 
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Do you have the magnetos on?

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PostPosted: Tue Nov 22, 2011 11:59 am 
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Yes to All get a few whisps of whtite smoke but the damed thing still wont start


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PostPosted: Tue Nov 22, 2011 12:18 pm 
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Hi,

if you are working with the manuals and also have understood how the systems works, double check your FSX settings. Next step would be a look into maintenance hangar, check also all engine parts for condition on left hand side of maintenance hangar screen.

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PostPosted: Tue Nov 22, 2011 1:34 pm 
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FSX updated to SP2 standard or Acceleration (which includes sp2).

double check manual for required settings in FSX also.

Try a reinstall of the spit, just run the installers again, and also try deleting the logs just in case.

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PostPosted: Tue Nov 22, 2011 8:31 pm 
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Do you have electrical power? Maybe your battery is run down. It could be that simple, especially for anyone who just bought an Accu-sim plane and sat in the cockpit too long before starting the engine. Check out this other thread if this could be the case:
viewtopic.php?f=60&t=24081

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PostPosted: Tue Nov 22, 2011 11:25 pm 
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Check shift+4 that you have fuel in the tanks + oils and all those other nice things :-)

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PostPosted: Wed Nov 23, 2011 6:59 am 
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The only problems I have had with starting default type engines in FSX is with:
    Fuel Valves closed
    FSX engine start-up bug.

Neither of them apply to you if can't start it automatically with CTRL + E, because CTRL + E should bypass both these issues.

The fuel valves closed is common problem when trying to start engines manually, and can crop up if you've used an add-on recently that let's you close the fuel valves, then switch to an aircraft that doesn't have them. Most default / simple aircraft don't have the fuel valves assigned to either a switch or a key, so you would need to first assign that FSX variable to a key. You can do that in the key assignments page where there is an entry called "Open/close all fuel valves". I set mine to CTRL + SHIFT + 5.

Regarding the FSX startup bug, again this only applies when staring engines manually. If you create a new flight in free flight, and choose a piston engined aircraft like the the default cessna, you cannot start it with the mouse. It needs to be started with CTRL + E, then shut down, then saved, and then opened. Then you can start it with the mouse. However, this would not be the cause of your problem if CTRL + E works for you although it is worth a try to create a new free flight with the default Cessna, start it up with CTRL + E, then shut it down completely, then load the A2A spitfire and see what happens.

The only other things I can think of with your aircraft is fuel tanks empty, or dead battery, although with a dead battery nothing should be happening at all. Failing this, it's an installation problem, so re-install.

Let me tell you a little story about the Accu-sim B-17. I had three hours to myself and decided to fly from Murmansk to Stockholm. I spent the entire three hours trying to start the engines! Even when I managed to start an engine, the RPM would not respond to throttle input, and after a few minutes the engine would die and the plugs would foul up. I was convinced it was bug, and re-installed it, only to have the same thing happen again. I later found out from this forum that the reason was because the outside air temperature was -7 and I wasn't using enough primer, and even when I succeeded in starting an engine, I didn't have the Turbo's on to warm the incoming air so the carburettors were freezing up almost instantly, killing the engine. I did not occur to me to turn on the turbo chargers while idling on the ground...

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PostPosted: Thu Nov 24, 2011 7:13 am 
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Let us know how the dat delete went. I PM'ed you were to find them.

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PostPosted: Fri Nov 25, 2011 1:58 pm 
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Hello Mike,

can you please check the location in my documents for the accu-sim data files. I believe these are corrupted and will need deleting.

Ill alert the team to this post.

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PostPosted: Sat Nov 26, 2011 6:30 am 
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Did you accidentally install the core update? this is ONLY for accu-sim users.

For non accu-sim users this fix from the FAQ is required; http://dl.dropbox.com/u/34075223/update ... t_dats.zip

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