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 Post subject: Video Recording
PostPosted: Wed Jun 15, 2011 4:20 am 
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So I thought I'd record a Circuit. The circuit went well, and I didn't bounce, and turned off the active, and stopped recording. On playback, the prop doesn't start, but she takes off and flies a great circuit with exhaust gas, and engine noise, following the throttle settings and pitch change, but a frozen prop. Feels weird. And the gear stays DOWN. (Although I retracted it on my circuit) Until I land, when as soon as the wheels touch, the gear flicks 85% retracted, the port leg not quite fully up. But she runs along the ground just fine, as if the gear was still down, and turns off, and sits there idling. So then when I stop playback,and press pause to continue, THEN she notices she is sitting nose in the air with no visible means of support, and the engine idling; so she drops onto the ground and bends the prop- all three blades, although they aren't rotating. Which is a neat trick.

Now I'd like to be able to record a few good circuits, but clearly there are some subtleties I am missing here. Any advice and suggestions gratefully received.

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 Post subject: Re: Video Recording
PostPosted: Wed Jun 15, 2011 5:56 am 
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First tip would be that the record fuction is in FSX is "ever so slightly sub standard".

You will find many anomalies with it. You could try one of the community "products". I have the most popular but can't for the life of me remember the name of it :oops: about $40 with a lifetime upgrade facility.

FRAPS?????? Sorry can't be more help.

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 Post subject: Re: Video Recording
PostPosted: Fri Jun 24, 2011 6:52 pm 
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Thanks for the advice. I searched around and got FSRecorder. But even with that I still have no propellor running on playback(with prop set as a factor to record) , and no change in engine note as the take-off starts- the revs stay at warmup about 1400rpm. But more interesting, as I get up to about 80mph, the prop starts to slowly turn, sort of windmilling as if its bearings were free, but the crank-shaft broken. Weird. I presume its a consequence of the Accu-sim links to FS-X. ( But it might be ab artifact of my inability to get the Input Configurator working either)

Any suggestions?

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 Post subject: Re: Video Recording
PostPosted: Fri Jun 24, 2011 9:28 pm 
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Killratio probably means something like "Fraps".


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 Post subject: Re: Video Recording
PostPosted: Sun Jun 26, 2011 4:48 am 
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Thanks. I looked at FRAPS, but I'm not clear if it can handle my Matrox 3 screen 3840 x 1024 + second screen 1280 x 1024. I also really like the possibility of creating formation flying recordings, which FS Recorder seems to offer. I will explore FRAPS further. John

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 Post subject: Re: Video Recording
PostPosted: Sun Jun 26, 2011 5:24 am 
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John,

yes, Mark is right, FRAPS is what I have used...but I seem to recall it doesn't fix all teh video problems with the Spitfire. The Multiplayer and recorder "look" of the Spitfire does some strange things (for which there is a terribley good technical reason, I believe).

The main problem I am having with recordings is the large file size .. as the FSX install and video processing software are on diff computers.

I will try to have a loom at FRAPS agan this week and see what it does/doesn't do/fix

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 Post subject: Re: Video Recording
PostPosted: Sat Jul 02, 2011 4:39 am 
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Progress Report,
I've downloaded FRAPS free version for a trial, after getting really good feedback from them about my 3 screen setup. They can handle 3840 x 1024 OK. It seems to work OK for making videos. At least, the prop turns, and I get a good 3 screen picture. BUT, while it picks up the 3 screen picture, the fourth one with the instrument panel is out of the frame. ( Can't win them all) Still,that means I could fly on the fourth screen, and capture the external views off the wide screen, which is pretty neat.

And the 30 second clip is 1/2 Mb. I can see it using memory fast. So thanks for the lead to FRAPS.

I've now realised the difference, and complementary nature of FS recorder, which records in FS-X format, and FRAPS which makes proper video. So what I want ideally is to get FS Recorder to work with the whole FS-X dataset, including a rotating propeller; and FRAPS to capture all 4 screens. (And I want world peace and justice for all- I know, I'm being unreasonable)

I guess I'm just going to have to practice formation flying with a section leader whose prop is stationary. But that's better than nothing. If anyone gets ideas about how to solve the prop problem in FS Recorder, I'm interested.

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John

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 Post subject: Re: Video Recording
PostPosted: Tue Aug 23, 2011 9:23 pm 
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I just finished my first test doing video recordings of the WOP3 Spitfire. I use FS-Recorder, I have FRAPS, and have just installed EZCA.
I encountered the same problems you mentioned about the prop not turning and the gear not moving during playback of the FS-recorder
file.

I have good news and bad news. The MkIIa version of the model works fine using FS-Recorder. The MkIa version does not.

When I first started doing my test I thought the gear on the MkIa were broken because it wouldn't work after pressing the G key. I thought installing the EZDok camera system was the culprit, but I don't think so. Going back and reading the manual I discovered that raising and lowering the gear on the MkIa required "pumping" the gear lever. I'm sure the data recorded by FS-Recorder doesn't take such activity into account. I imagine the prop doesn't turn during FS-Recorder playback for similar reasons. I suspect there's quite a bit of special coding going on under the hood in these models. I don't have the accu-sim pack so I'm not suppose to be able to switch between the two prop types, but when the sim is in pause mode both props are available in the maintenance shop window, and when in the plane selection window of the free-flight menu - the model shows up with the 3-blade prop and not the 2-blade prop. But when I take the sim out of pause, I end up back with just being able to use the one prop type.

I just finished some more test and I discovered there are some limits when using the MkIIa version as well. You can get things to look right when using FS-Recorder if you leave the prop, engine boxes unchecked when making the original recording. Then during playback, just hit the Ctrl+E keys and things should be OK. Also, if you record the gear going up, make sure the gear are back down before trying to replay the FS-Recorder file. I still haven't tried building a formation flight. It just might end up that the WOP3 Spitfire and FS-Recorder don't play well together afterall.


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