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The Spitfire Input Configurator should create a file called FSXpath.txt, this file will save your FSX locations so the Input Configurator should not have to ask for your FSX location everytime it is run.

If you look in your FSX install folder navigate to A2A\Spitfire\Tools and see if there is a file called FSXpath.txt

I do not have a reason why the input configurator tool does not see your extra rotary. Have a look at the image below, can you tell me how many devices are listed in your list of controllers.

I don't have that FSX path file but I do remember it from the Accusim installation (somewhere under My Documents), I haven't installed Accusim yet as I wanted to solve the basic problem. If you can post the text I'll create the file.

I have three devices listed:

1: Saitek X45 Flight Controller
2: Saitek X52 Pro Flight Controller
3: Saitek Pro Rudder Pedals

klem

You can manually edit the file axisConfig.cfg located in FSX/A2A/Spitfire folder.

The first two lines start with Elevator_Trim and Rudder_Trim. There you can change joystick ID number (0, 1, 2) and axis ID. In your case, you should try joystick:0:RyAxis, so the whole line will look like:


After making the changes, save the file and reaload the Spitfire.

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Mike Krawczyk

The FSXpath.txt file simply contains the path to your FSX installation. It has nothing to do with Accusim in this case, it is for the Input Configurator exe file. The file isn't created during the install but only when run the exe file and it asks for yout FSX installation folder.

It should contain one single line with your FSX install location. Mine reads.

D:\FSX

ICDP
I created the FSXpath.txt in the A2A/Spitfire/Tools/ folder and typed in the complete path:-
C:\Program Files (x86)\Microsoft Games\Microsoft Flight Simulator X

The configurator still wants me to tell it where the FSX folder is.

some1
I edited the axisConfig.cfg file in the folder:
C:\Program Files (x86)\Microsoft Games\Microsoft Flight Simulator X\A2A\Spitfire folder
and changed the line to what you suggested (which makes sense to me).
When I ran FSX the Rotary did nothing although the cockpit wheel and keyboard do.
When I open the configurator it shows the Elevator trimn as disabled even though, at the same time, the axisConfig.cfg file still points to the 0:RyAxis.

The Spitfire Input Configurator file is only 45KB could someone email me theirs?

klem

The input configurator is only 45k so the one you have is the correct size. The fact that it doesn't save the FSXpath points to a problem with your FSX install. Could you check to see that the A2A folder (and all sub folders) in FSX are not set to read only.

If that doesn't help I think you might have a corrupt FSX install. Does your Windows logon have admin rights?

ICDP

you were right about 'Read only'. It is no longer asking me where the FSX folder is.

A curious thing though. When I open it, it still (as it did yesterday evening) shows the Elevator Trim as DISABLED when the axisConfig file says
Elevator_Trim joystick:0:RyAxis False

If I set it to the other Rotary (RxAxis) or to Slider it remembers and can be seen in the axisConfig file. As soon as I edit the file to RyAxis the configurator reports it as DISABLED presumably because it cannot detect the lower Rotary.

I don't want to confuse anyone but if you (A2A) are looking at the configurator to see why it doesn't detect the lower X45 Rotary and why it reports the Slider twice the following may help. On the X45 the configurator sees the top (horizontal) rotary as Rx and can't find Ry. I have checked another sim I use and it reports the X45 upper as Rx but it reports the lower as V (not Ry as I would have expected). Perhaps this is why the configurator is confused and reporting the Slider twice, is it expecting to find an Ry but not a V? Is there a way to tell the configurator which Axes to look for before listing them for selection or getting it to expand it's expectations of what to look for?

I did try editing the axisConfig file to 0:VAxis but again the configurator reported DISABLED and the Rotary didn't do anything in the cockpit either.

klem

Do not look at joystick configurator if you are manually editing the axis config file, it is not meant to work this way. The config file itself can be used to adjust all assignments, the configurator is just a frontend GUI, you don't have to launch it at all.

The programming interface built into FSX that we are using allows the following axes to be assigned:
XAxis
YAxis
ZAxis
RxAxis
RyAxis
RzAxis
Slider

Some joysticks have one more axis, which is not supported by FSX this way, even though it can be assigned in standard FSX menus. It may be that the rotary on your X45 identifies as such axis.

You can try to change the assignments manually in the config file to one of the axis names listed above, but make sure that the joystick ID number corresponds to your X45. It's 0 for the first joystick listed. Also remember to reload the airplane every time you make manual changes to the config file.

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Mike Krawczyk

some1

thanks, that seems to answer the question, it doesn't recognise or even look at the U and V axes. Fortunately U is the Throttle which the configurator/axisConfig isn't interested in.

I saw in another thread that the configurator, and presumably the way it feeds into FSX, is a 'work in progress'. Is there any chance that it might be expanded to recognise the U and V axes?

EDIT:
1. For the same reasons the slider on my X-52 Pro doesn't work in Spitfire. I use it for Flaps but it is axis U. It works for other FSX aircraft.
2. Accusim Sound problem moved to separate thread

klem

The axes names I listed above are those supported by FSX SimConnect interface. It's not a limitation of our tool, it's how Microsoft created it. The axes U and V are usually mapped to 'Slider' but if that doesn't work, then we can't do anything about it.

You can try to manually set the elevator trim axis in the config file to 'Slider' and see which joystick axis responds in the sim. Don't look on what configurator shows, things work in only one direction: configurator -> config file -> FSX. If you are manually modyfying the config file, then the only way to check if modifications work is to launch Spitfire in FSX.

Anyway, we'll check the ability to use the elevator trim axis assignment from the FSX menus, so you won't have to use configurator for that. I think it's possible, but can't promise anything.

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Mike Krawczyk

Hi some1

ok, I don't know anything about the FSX simconnect, I'm seeing things form a dumb end-user point of view and making best guesses.

I actually used the configurator to write "Slider" to the axisConfig file as there are two of them listed and I just wondered if the result might be different. It isn't and with either Slider selected the axisConfig simply reads Slider and in both cases the elevator trim responds to the X45 Throttle.

I do have my lower Rotary set as Elevator trim in FSX but of course WOP3 Spitfire overrides this. I suppose there's a reason why the configurator/config file should need to override the standard FSX selection?

klem

Ahem, I'm stinging the bits together OK....cos I have the ????? same symptopms!! Saitek X45 Windows 7 64bit...

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Regards,

Nick

NickD,

looks like your throttle (V axis) should work ok but you won't be able to assign your lower Rotary (U axis) to an Accusim control axis like elevator control. You'll have to use Keys unless they can fix it. I'm hoping they can at least get Accusim to ignore the U and V axes and let FSX have them direct.

klem

Hi all,

I have exact same problem with my Saitek X45:

X & Y Axis - joystick pitch and yaw
2 Sliders - respond to Throttle
Rx Axis - set for Rudder Trim
Rz axis - responds to rudder pedals.

Think its the way the input config programme maps Siatek X45 - with two throttles and only one rotary...

Did not find editing the Axis.cfg file in FSX/A2A/Spitfire folder work at all though..

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Regards,

Nick

I have been following this thread with great interest as I also have the saitek x45...which operates perfectly for all other aircraft except the new A2A wop3 spit. that means the B17 accusimmed, as well as the P-47 accusimmed. I, as others have said, would like to assign the lower thumb wheel (RxAxis) on the left hand controller (throttle) to elevator trim. As I have for the other accusimmed prodcuts. But as others have witnessed the spitfire will not take it. I have gone through all the stages everyone has suggested with negative results. Is it possible a coding error was made that disallows the configurator from seeing this input control? Or as it seems to me a conflict between the spit configurator and FSX? I think I can state for the others as well this diminishes the otherwise Great product you have offered, which is only more so frustrating as it is such a great product. My frustration lies in the fact the use of a "Key" stroke to apply trim, for this aircraft in particular just does not feel right....Sad in a product that above all others in this game "Feels Right"

Ol'Jarhead