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 Post subject: Flap control axis
PostPosted: Mon Jul 30, 2012 1:50 am 
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I use a lever axis on MSFS to control the flaps.
When i originally bought the A2A WoP3 Accusim Spitfire I found that the flaps did not respond to the flaps control. Since the flaps on the Spit are on or off I just programmed a couple of keys to give full on or off and this worked OK.

Since I have bought the A2A WoP3 Accusim P51 with the incremental flap settings the simple on/off control is not really suitable. I could reprogram the keys to work incrementally but ideally I would like the A2A aircraft to use the same flap control as all of the other aircraft in the sim. I have several addon aircraft and all the others seem to work OK.

Is there anything that can be done?


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 Post subject: Re: Flap control axis
PostPosted: Mon Jul 30, 2012 9:24 am 
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I'm not anywhere near my sim computer so I have to rely on
my memory but I have two biuttons on my X-45 stick mapped
to the incremental flaps up and down functions and these
work with both the Spit (1 press either direction for UP or Down)
and the P-51D which I believe takes 5 up's or down's.

I also have a pinkie-switch modifier than sends full up
or down commands but that isn't needed and is just
a 'convenience' :)

Paul

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 Post subject: Re: Flap control axis
PostPosted: Mon Jul 30, 2012 9:49 am 
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Yes I can map keys to incremental flap operation but i normally use one of the levers on the Saitek throttle quadrant to give continuous control. It is when you use a control axis like this that it does not work.

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Kelvin


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 Post subject: Re: Flap control axis
PostPosted: Mon Jul 30, 2012 1:23 pm 
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KelB wrote:
Yes I can map keys to incremental flap operation but i normally use one of the levers on the Saitek throttle quadrant to give continuous control. It is when you use a control axis like this that it does not work.

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Kelvin


Roger...I forgot about the axis :) If you have a registered version of FSUIPC4 you
can solve your issue in a couple of different ways. Creating aircraft.dependent
assignments for that axis and is the case of the Spit, have it send a single
Flaps_Up or _Down command when the axis is moved from each limit in
the proper direction. For the P-51D, create 5 incremental 'bands' to send '
the incremental flaps up/down commands when the axis goes through a
band in the proper direction.

If you controller software permits the creation of 'bands' for axis programming
you could just program the axis for the 5 'bands' that send the incremental
commands to FSX. In the case of the Spit, the 4 additional commands would
just be ignored. The software would have to be able to determine in which
direction you entered the 'band' in order to send either an up or down command.
Most controller software allows for different 'profiles' so that you can tailor the
axis for each aircraft and load the appropriate profile for the plane you are flying.

A more elaborate, rather elegant, solution would be to use a Lua script
to set the appropriate flap position based upon aircraft that is loaded
and the position of the axis.

Paul

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 Post subject: Re: Flap control axis
PostPosted: Mon Jul 30, 2012 2:26 pm 
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Thanks GB.

I have been considering using FSUIPC, perhaps this is the best option.

I was just surprised that the A2A planes do not recognise that the flaps are controlled by an axis whereas every other manufacturers airplanes seem to work perfectly fine whether they have multiple steps or a single on off operation. The multiple step versions seem to just naturally set up up as regular intervals across the full travel regardless of the actual number of steps.

For the moment I have reprogrammed by flaps switch to give incremental settings for down and a single step for up since I rarely reduce the flaps in increments.

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Kelvin


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 Post subject: Re: Flap control axis
PostPosted: Mon Jul 30, 2012 3:31 pm 
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Kelvin,

We included an input configurator with the aircraft. Check the start emnu >> all programs >> A2A Simulations for the location of all your manuals and input configurators etc.

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 Post subject: Re: Flap control axis
PostPosted: Mon Jul 30, 2012 10:46 pm 
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Thanks Lewis. I was going to edit my reply up there to
mention the input configurator although being away from
my sim computer I couldn't recall if there was an option for
the flaps via an axis on the Spit.

Also, I am a BIG advocate of FSUIPC4 and Lua :)
I'd be at a loss without the ability to 'tweak' things :)

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 Post subject: Re: Flap control axis
PostPosted: Tue Jul 31, 2012 1:31 am 
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No assignment for flaps in the Spit configurator. I must admit I have not looked at the P51 configurator.

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Kelvin


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 Post subject: Re: Flap control axis
PostPosted: Tue Jul 31, 2012 1:10 pm 
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Yes - the P51 Input Configurator does have an axis assignment for flaps.

Works fine now - thanks for suggesting it. I had looked at the Spit one and assumed they would be the same.

:oops: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Kelvin


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