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PostPosted: Sat Aug 18, 2012 6:27 pm 
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Hello,

I've need your assistance to understand one thing, when I use my "Fuel booster pump" with my three fuel tanks (wings or in fuselage) I can hear the sound of the "Fuel booster pump" and I can see on the fuel pressure gauge working fine.

But when I use my Droppable tanks my "Fuel booster pump" stop to work and the pressure fall down to zero, and also the sound stop to play...

Please can you tell me why my "Fuel booster pump" work fine with my three fuel tanks (wings & fuselage) and why when I use my "Fuel booster pump" with the droppable tanks my "Fuel booster pump" stop to work...

Is it normal or I meet a bug ?

I'm very sorry for my poor English.
A great thanks in advance for all and best regards. Olivier

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PostPosted: Sun Aug 19, 2012 5:28 am 
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I think, the plane has in deed three fuel booster pumps. On in each onboard tank. If the switch is on and an on board fuel tank is selected, the corresponding pump works. The droppable tanks don't have such a pump and so deselecting an onboard tank and switching to the drop tank switches of the booster pump.
Fuel is the fed to the engine only with the engine driven fuel pump, which should be enough.

Booster pump is for pre filling the fuel system before start and to prevent vapor lock in the fuel lines at high altitude.

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PostPosted: Sun Aug 19, 2012 10:13 am 
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Hello gulredrel,

Yes you have right, your explanations are corrects.
A great thanks for your assistance. Best regards, Olivier.

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PostPosted: Sun Aug 19, 2012 12:39 pm 
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You can see the booster pumps switching on and off if you monitor the ampere meter.
Cycle the fuel selector valve and the ampere meter show lower readings when you are on drop tanks and higher readings when on board tanks are selected.

It's beautiful to see, how such details are simulated.

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 20, 2012 6:48 pm 
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gulredrel wrote:
Fuel is the fed to the engine only with the engine driven fuel pump, which should be enough.

Not quite, because of this:
gulredrel wrote:
...and to prevent vapor lock in the fuel lines at high altitude.

Drop tanks were frequently used at high altitude and if they ran on the engine pump alone they may have run into vapor lock issues (since the engine is pulling fuel from the tanks rather than being force-fed), however the external tanks do have a boost pump of sorts, it's just pneumatic rather than electric and there are no pilot controls for its operation. The vacuum pump pulls air through all the gyro instruments to spin them but after it goes through the pump that air (which is now under pressure) has to go somewhere. In most planes it's just dumped overboard but the P-51 puts that "free" air pressure to use by routing it to the tops of the drop tanks which forces fuel through the pickups at the bottom. So basically your suction gauge is telling you both the inches of vacuum at the gyros and the inches of pressure in the drop tanks (2" Hg = about 1 psi), assuming they're installed and there are no leaks. That same vacuum pump also provided pressure for the pilot's G-suit. Pretty brilliant concept for what was once a single purpose piece of equipment.

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 21, 2012 4:51 am 
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Thanks for this. Didn't know that, but really makes sense.

Other useful method would be to pressurize tanks with inert gas to prevent possible fuel tank fires.

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 21, 2012 5:12 am 
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The SR-71 Blackbird (and the A-12 Cygnus on which it was based) carried liquid nitrogen on board for that very purpose. On some missions range was actually limited by the nitrogen stores rather than fuel quantity, since the fuel could always be replenished by tanker.
http://www.habu.org/sr-71/17968.html

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