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Hey,

I was wondering if there was a way to make an ai b17 flight plan that way I could "escort" the 17 with the p51? If so how would I accomplish that?

One popular method I have seen is to use FS Recorder. You can record a flight with a B-17 and then play that back as traffic and escort with the P-51. This requires you to fly both planes at different times. You can then re-record your flight escorting the B-17, play that back and now you can fly as a wingman for the first P-51 escort. It is labor intensive and you have to coordinate carefully but it can be a lot of fun

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There is an AI B-17 from ACG. It is just about the only one I've gotten to work consistently. Google "ACG AI Pack 3" or if you are registered at Flightsim.com here is the download link
http://www.flightsim.com/vbfs/content.php?108-Copyright&fid=161124

This is the same B-17 included with their Duxford scenery. I hope it works for you.

EDIT: sorry didn't see the previous post. FS recorder is the other option, I've seen some great results, but never had the patience to try it.

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-mike

I will check it out. Thanks

I created a whole mob of AI B-17s once using the default AI tools, but if you want formation flying, that's not going to help. I'd agree the FSRecorder is probably the way to go.

Ian P.

I use AIFP to make AI traffic. http://stuff4fs.com/newpage.asp?JS=True&Folder=AIFP
Takes a bit to learn, but works great.

This video was made using FS Recorder as stated above. You can then make a formation of B-17s by within FS Recorder copying that B-17 as many times as you like and give each aircraft offsets from the original. You can then fly your P-51 with the B-17 formation. The video was made by flying 1 x B-17 then 1 x P47. The rest were copies. You don'r have to give the 150 aircraft offsets. I did 18 B17s in an authentic 1943 formation (from a book) then saved that file, opened that file a few times in FS Recorder playback and give each of the play back formations of 18 aircraft a time delay of say 10 seconds for the first 18 aircraft formation, 20 seconds for the second and so on. How many aircraft depends on your system. Mine is not the best.
It is best to get the first aircraft into your start point, pause the sim and save the flight in FS. This makes it easier to get your P51 near the bombers to start with when you play back your formation. Maybe turn Crash detect off until you get away from the bombers otherwise you may collide.
If anybody would like my B17 formation offsets reply here and and I will post.
EDIT "If you want to fly with a larger formation, start recording your flight in FSR on a TRUE North heading, even if its only for a couple of seconds. This makes it easier allocating the offsets as they are North and East distances. You can then change to a suitable course."
http://youtu.be/0n0_e3ILqtE?hd=1

Cheers,

Norm

There is also a fly-by toy available.

"Formation Flight Toys for FSX

Use this set of utility programs with Microsoft's Flight Simulator X to create up to four AI-controlled aircraft that fly in loose formations."


http://www.mudpond.org/

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Just an idea with FS Recorder. You could do this if you are prpeared for a long flight. Tick record time in the FSR Record options.

1/ Record a B17 flight from England to The Netherlands, that's not too long.
2/ Make a formation of B17s and save. Not to many though.
3/ At a point over Holland fly a Luftwaffe aircraft agains the formation and save.
4/ Repeat above OR copy above and give the copies different distance and time offsets (and save) so that a group of fighters attack the bombers.
3/ Playback the above formations and fly and record a P51 so that it meets the B17 formation at a landmark over The Netherlands coast at whatever time the B17s overflew that landmark and chase the Luftwaffe fighters.

The above is feasible if you have the time and patience and would make a good and realistic scenario.

Cheers,

Norm