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PostPosted: Tue Jan 17, 2012 10:17 pm 
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Here's an odd one: Using my Saitek combat pedals, set for differential braking, the P-40's wheel brakes won't both engage at the same time. I can brake either wheel to full lock when force is applied to just one wheel, but as soon as I step on the other brake both release.

While this makes for quite a bit taxi and landing excitement, I'd be curious to see if anyone has any input.


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PostPosted: Wed Jan 18, 2012 8:11 am 
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My CH Pro pedals do the same thing and I have them mapped through a registered version of FSUIPC. The same problem crops up in the B-17 for me as well but all works fine with default aircraft using my FSUIPC mappings.

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PostPosted: Wed Jan 18, 2012 11:44 am 
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Ok, so who do I fix this?


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PostPosted: Wed Jan 18, 2012 2:59 pm 
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aggressorblue wrote:
Here's an odd one: Using my Saitek combat pedals, set for differential braking, the P-40's wheel brakes won't both engage at the same time. I can brake either wheel to full lock when force is applied to just one wheel, but as soon as I step on the other brake both release.
While this makes for quite a bit taxi and landing excitement, I'd be curious to see if anyone has any input.

That's definitely odd but I must also say that I use the same pedals without any problems. In your case it looks like there are two different assignments for the brake axes. How do you setup the axes? Through FSUIPC or directly through FSX? Is there any possible mixup with the brake axes because of a double setup? To me it sounds like you had a setup through FSUIPC and didn't clear the FSX own controller setup. Just a guess though as I can't reproduce it here.

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PostPosted: Wed Jan 18, 2012 7:17 pm 
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This is one I haven't been able to fix in a lot of messing about. Definitely don't have any axis mapped in FSX. I might have a go at rebuilding my FSUICP ini over the weekend when I have plenty of time and see if that helps.

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PostPosted: Wed Jan 18, 2012 8:29 pm 
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Krycekuk wrote:
This is one I haven't been able to fix in a lot of messing about. Definitely don't have any axis mapped in FSX. I might have a go at rebuilding my FSUICP ini over the weekend when I have plenty of time and see if that helps.



Krycekuk, I experience the problem exactly as you described on the B-17, just as you have noted. Tried everything, but the only thing that worked was to map the brakes through FSX, and not through FSUIPC. Of course this impacted every other airplane, and was a massive inconvenience, but this should work. Apparently not everybody will confirm this problem, but it definitely isn't unique to you. Take a look at this ancient thread for the B-17.
viewtopic.php?f=29&t=25475

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PostPosted: Wed Jan 18, 2012 10:38 pm 
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I just finished a flight and had the same problem. I couldn't figure out why it was taking so long to stop the aircraft. After I stopped I tried pressing the brakes individually and the pedals depressed fully in the sim. When both were applied, the pedals went down and then most of the way back up even while the brakes were applied. I have them calibrated through FSUIPC and definitely do not have a conflicting axis assignment through FSX. I guess I'll try using FSX and see if it helps, but this is definitely not a problem affecting only one person.

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PostPosted: Wed Jan 18, 2012 10:56 pm 
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OK, I cleared the FSUIPC axis assignment for brakes and set them in FSX. Did not fix the simultaneous brake problem. Another reated item of note -- If I press both brakes down, I can't set the parking brake my moving the handle. It won't take. If I press either brake pedal down individually, the parking brake sets just fine.

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 19, 2012 5:00 am 
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you hold the (.) and than pull on the parkingbrake handle


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PostPosted: Thu Jan 19, 2012 7:52 am 
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Yes, but I think similar to the P-47, you are supposed to be able to do it without a keyboard shortcut by pulling the handle while depressing the brake. It works with one brake depressed, it doesn't work with both pedals depressed. This seems to me another indication that both pedals down is not registering as brakes depressed (or at least not fully so).


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PostPosted: Thu Jan 19, 2012 8:15 am 
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bigjuicyspider wrote:
Krycekuk wrote:
This is one I haven't been able to fix in a lot of messing about. Definitely don't have any axis mapped in FSX. I might have a go at rebuilding my FSUICP ini over the weekend when I have plenty of time and see if that helps.



Krycekuk, I experience the problem exactly as you described on the B-17, just as you have noted. Tried everything, but the only thing that worked was to map the brakes through FSX, and not through FSUIPC. Of course this impacted every other airplane, and was a massive inconvenience, but this should work. Apparently not everybody will confirm this problem, but it definitely isn't unique to you. Take a look at this ancient thread for the B-17.
viewtopic.php?f=29&t=25475



Yes I did try that out ages ago and it did sort the B-17 problem for me as well, trouble is my old pedals are worn and I use the FSUIPC to take that into account. FSX just doesn't give me the flexibility I need with all the different control systems I use. Maybe I need to bite the bullet and get some new pedals, cant say i have liked how close the CH ones are together.

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 19, 2012 11:42 am 
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I am getting the same problem with my saitek pro flight pedals.

This only happens with A2A aircraft. It hasn't been a big deal as the rest of the aircraft is amazing.

It would be nice if someone could look into it.

A freind of mine came with a small bandaid. Go into the FSUIPC INI file and increase the range of the brakes.. Example.. if your brake calibration in FSUIPC looks like this...

LeftBrake=-16384,16383/16
RightBrake=-16384,16383/16

Then add more range beyond the pedal stops, like this..

LeftBrake=-18000,18000/16
RightBrake=-18000,18000/16

Then go back into FSUIPC and load settings...

The above bandaid has allowed me to get consistent braking at the pedal stops, but you won't get full brakes as the pedals are only commanding a percentage of the range it is expecting.

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 19, 2012 12:56 pm 
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Interesting tip, will have to give that a try.

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 19, 2012 1:00 pm 
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Krycekuk wrote:
Interesting tip, will have to give that a try.



Report back and let us know how it works for you.

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 19, 2012 1:51 pm 
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That seems to have improved the B-17 and P-40 a lot. Although I can still get the brakes to disengage under conditions like having one pedal fully down and then applying the other pedal fully down (but only on a rare occasion). It does seem to have sorted out the usual use of applying the brakes together and having them disengage. Will just have to live with the slightly reduced braking effect.

Thank you for the heads up JB.

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