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A2A Ruined "Dunkirk" For Me (SPOILER ALERT)

Posted: 20 Jul 2017, 22:46
by Yoda
I loved most of the film...the flying scenes were mostly believable and exciting. The cockpit was familiar (felt like home after so many hours in the A2A Spit), and I loved the plot device with the fuel gauge being shot out. How that's handled ramps up the tension and also made me think, "Yeah! That's pretty smart!" I cringed a little at the leader's instructions to the flight, "Stay at 500 feet to conserve fuel." Uh...no, but okay. I forgave that because SPITFIRES, y'all! SPITFIRES!

Until the last ten minutes. Tom Hardy seems to have gotten his hands on JK Rowling's personal Spit.

Also? Longest finals EVER. :shock:

Re: A2A Ruined "Dunkirk" For Me (SPOILER ALERT)

Posted: 21 Jul 2017, 01:14
by Killratio
At least you didn't tell people that the Brits had to be evacuated from the beaches.. THAT would have been unforgivable!!!

(Oh...er...damn......)

Re: A2A Ruined "Dunkirk" For Me (SPOILER ALERT)

Posted: 21 Jul 2017, 02:15
by Gypsy Baron
Killratio wrote:At least you didn't tell people that the Brits had to be evacuated from the beaches.. THAT would have been unforgivable!!!

(Oh...er...damn......)
:D :D :D :D :D :D

Paul

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Re: A2A Ruined "Dunkirk" For Me (SPOILER ALERT)

Posted: 21 Jul 2017, 11:03
by Bomber_12th
At least they used two actual Mk.1 Spitfires in the making of the movie, as well as a disguised early Mk.V - no CGI at all. The views of the actors in the cockpit, going through maneuvers, was all captured actually in-flight, not using a green screen, by using a highly modified Yak-52TW, flying side-by-side with the real Spitfires. The forward cockpit section of the Yak was modified to look like a Spitfire, and an Imax camera was mounted, on various flights, on the left wing looking toward/through the cockpit, at the actor - behind the forward cockpit, over the should of the actor - and on the right wing, viewing the nose and tail which had been modified and painted to resemble a Spitfire.

https://www.aironline.nl/weblog/2016/07 ... her-nolan/
https://www.flickr.com/photos/supasmokey/28629521065/
https://www.flickr.com/photos/supasmokey/28079338584/

All of the Stukas and He-111's seen in the movie are all RC models:
http://www.nolanfans.com/forums/viewtop ... &p=1041563

Re: A2A Ruined "Dunkirk" For Me (SPOILER ALERT)

Posted: 21 Jul 2017, 16:42
by Scotters
Were the ME 109s models too like the Stukas?

Btw it was an awesome intense movie!

Re: A2A Ruined "Dunkirk" For Me (SPOILER ALERT)

Posted: 21 Jul 2017, 17:11
by Bomber_12th
No, they used one of the UK-based Hispano Buchons, dressed as a Bf-109.

http://www.warbirdsnews.com/warbirds-news/dunkirk.html

Re: A2A Ruined "Dunkirk" For Me (SPOILER ALERT)

Posted: 21 Jul 2017, 19:47
by Killratio
Cheers for the pics John. Interesting that they took the trouble to simulate the sutton harness...obviously using a modern belt (lap?)in the aircraft itself for safety.

Re: A2A Ruined "Dunkirk" For Me (SPOILER ALERT)

Posted: 22 Jul 2017, 00:27
by Dogsbody55
I went to see this film on Thursday and enjoyed it. The director clearly choose not to try to tell the entire tale of Dunkirk, rather a few slices of the action. It didn't depict the vastness you'd expect given that about 350,000 soldiers packed the beaches at Dunkirk. It is a good tribute to the bravery of all who took part in the evacuation, so should be viewed in that light. My criticism of it related to the lack of planes - it would have been good to see more. I suspect that the lack of planes and lack of scale were largely budgetary. The film would never have made a cracker if the director had chosen to film a blockbuster. There has been some criticism on social media along the lines of the movie just being about a "bunch of white guys", but obviously these people are only displaying their ignorance, thinking they can compare the world of today with 1940. I won't mention the obvious historical significance lost on most of today's audience, which is a great pity.

Anyway, if you love the A2A Spitfire, go along and see it for yourself. I think it's worth it but please excuse the never ending glide at the end of the movie. We'll call that "artistic licence" :lol:


Cheers,
Mike

Re: A2A Ruined "Dunkirk" For Me (SPOILER ALERT)

Posted: 22 Jul 2017, 00:33
by Killratio
Dogsbody55 wrote:My criticism of it related to the lack of planes - it would have been good to see more.
Mike
I think the Infantry thought very much the same at the time Mike :) :) :)

Re: A2A Ruined "Dunkirk" For Me (SPOILER ALERT)

Posted: 01 Aug 2017, 18:58
by Mr.Mugel
Thanks for the Trivia supplied in this thread. I wondered why the shots from the side of the plane showed the fuselage so round. Being shot on a Yak-52 explains it, though. As well as the white wooden throttle handle.

I really liked the atmosphere and the concept of the movie. Well worth watching in my opinion.

When I was younger I didn´t like the Bouchons being used in the Battle of Britain movie, as they weren´t accurate. But after seing the CGI alternatives in movies like Red Tails, I was really happy to see real flight scenes in a movie. It felt so much more authentic.

Had to see the german synchronized edition as I was with friends, but I might go ahead and see it with the original soundtrack again.

Re: A2A Ruined "Dunkirk" For Me (SPOILER ALERT)

Posted: 01 Aug 2017, 22:58
by Paughco
I saw it today with my wife. It was, IMHO, totally worth it.

My wife's mom was a war bride. Her dad was in England from before the USA entered the war, working on the electronic warfare equipment. In 1946 her mom flew back to the USA on a TWA Connie, which I suspect was a L049 type. In 1994 we walked through the remnants of the Coventry Cathedral with Carolyn's mom, who was there when it got bombed. Heavy duty.

Seeya
ATB