Oh well......
I guess I will just have to admit it is "completion anxiety" after all. After a late night and, um, a single drink (or maybe two) which went to my head I couldn't face the guide today....
But I DID notice that the cupscrew that is the axle for the door latch did not look right...so I turned a faux locking cap for the axle and it came up quite well.
I did manage to break my parting tool in the process (on aluminium no more/less!!) but that was not wholey uexpected as it was never quite "right" for my lathe. I will now search for a new one.
The real thing:
And a quick start to the paint job for the door:
Will it never end???????
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Stencil done...the door is actually out of plum, the warning looks almost straight when you are sat in the cockpit.
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Wow, this is absolutely stunning! Keep up the great work / patience and thx for sharing.
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Thanks c300c, and it's my pleasure,
I should have mentioned, the sign was done the same way I did "Moody Blue". Chris laser cut a paper stencil with "sticky" back. This was transfered to the door and sprayed white first. The final colour is "engine red", the best and closest paint I could get to a flat red. It is a bit shiny but will fade. Because it is engine paint, it is also fairly thick and so stands a little proud..which is inaccurate but certainly made cleaning up any seepage under the stencil much easier.
Overall I'm very pleased.
Next job is the second (rear) latch guide this weekend. I've put that off as far as I can now that I won't have the lathe. I'm not really sure what scares me about it, except maybe hand filing the "square" hole to be firmly fit with the claw...the front one is absolutely smooth now that the keyway is painted..hope it wasn't a fluke
Darryl
I should have mentioned, the sign was done the same way I did "Moody Blue". Chris laser cut a paper stencil with "sticky" back. This was transfered to the door and sprayed white first. The final colour is "engine red", the best and closest paint I could get to a flat red. It is a bit shiny but will fade. Because it is engine paint, it is also fairly thick and so stands a little proud..which is inaccurate but certainly made cleaning up any seepage under the stencil much easier.
Overall I'm very pleased.
Next job is the second (rear) latch guide this weekend. I've put that off as far as I can now that I won't have the lathe. I'm not really sure what scares me about it, except maybe hand filing the "square" hole to be firmly fit with the claw...the front one is absolutely smooth now that the keyway is painted..hope it wasn't a fluke
Darryl
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Probably the last update here, as all the "visible" stuff is now done. There is only some technical under the hood detail and mechanicing to go.
This time I thought I would show some of the process whereby solid chunks of metal become useful things. This is fairly new to me, so I apologise in advance for boring anone with a metalwork background. I am still at the wide eyed stage as stuff begins to take shape!
I'll also apologise to those I owe emails etc. Life is complicated just now and I've been racing to finish this before the really complicated stuff starts. Anyhow.....
...I have now finished the door, its associated locks and the door pier and slots for the fitting.
To start I drilled the 16mm hole in the end of the bar stock, which hole will eventually become the square hole in the guide.I did this first as last time I learned that the cut down guide is not very stable in the vice, after large portions of material have been removed. Then I began to carve away the centre of the latch guide.
You can just see the edge of the hole in the right of the picture as the cutting begins.
As material "disappears" the shape starts to look vaguely familiar.
The first (front) side finished, now time to start carving out the rear part.
(The middle swathe will be taken out last. On the front latch guide I used a 20mm cutter twice which caused some vibration etc..so this time I used a 16mm with a slower speed and that worked better..but meant three sections had to be cut instead of two. Time vs tool vs material..there is quite a bit to get your head around with this milling lark!!)
The job starts to look even more like a latch guide. (about an hour and a half to here with setting up, measuring and cutting)
Next, testing size, position and general comparison to the front guide.
Domed rear end of guide started (at this point there is still over 1mm finishing cut to be taken off one side, you can see the hole is not central) This just fit with the bar stock size and not having to trim BOTH sides of the bar (another simple thing I had to learn LAST time!!)
The small cutter machining and fine hand filing begin to convert the round 16mm hole into an 18mm x 16mm rectangular hole with squared corners.
An hour, some fine hand filing and two broken 4mm cutters later, the claw starts to get close to fitting into the (only now) "squaring" hole.
Finished, fitted and painted. The door on half lock. Just like the original the front claw fits around the door pier on half lock. The rear claw slides into the outside hole in the seat back frame and the canopy rail (I guess that is how the real one works too, from the dimensions..but I am not sure.
And full... the front claw sits inside the door pier and the rear sits in both the holes in the frame.
A very snug (MUCH to my relief!) fitting door and latch.
And the view from afar....
(if you don't mention that the is a different colour, even though from the same tin of paint, due to the main body floor seal coating fading over time, then I won't..)
This time I thought I would show some of the process whereby solid chunks of metal become useful things. This is fairly new to me, so I apologise in advance for boring anone with a metalwork background. I am still at the wide eyed stage as stuff begins to take shape!
I'll also apologise to those I owe emails etc. Life is complicated just now and I've been racing to finish this before the really complicated stuff starts. Anyhow.....
...I have now finished the door, its associated locks and the door pier and slots for the fitting.
To start I drilled the 16mm hole in the end of the bar stock, which hole will eventually become the square hole in the guide.I did this first as last time I learned that the cut down guide is not very stable in the vice, after large portions of material have been removed. Then I began to carve away the centre of the latch guide.
You can just see the edge of the hole in the right of the picture as the cutting begins.
As material "disappears" the shape starts to look vaguely familiar.
The first (front) side finished, now time to start carving out the rear part.
(The middle swathe will be taken out last. On the front latch guide I used a 20mm cutter twice which caused some vibration etc..so this time I used a 16mm with a slower speed and that worked better..but meant three sections had to be cut instead of two. Time vs tool vs material..there is quite a bit to get your head around with this milling lark!!)
The job starts to look even more like a latch guide. (about an hour and a half to here with setting up, measuring and cutting)
Next, testing size, position and general comparison to the front guide.
Domed rear end of guide started (at this point there is still over 1mm finishing cut to be taken off one side, you can see the hole is not central) This just fit with the bar stock size and not having to trim BOTH sides of the bar (another simple thing I had to learn LAST time!!)
The small cutter machining and fine hand filing begin to convert the round 16mm hole into an 18mm x 16mm rectangular hole with squared corners.
An hour, some fine hand filing and two broken 4mm cutters later, the claw starts to get close to fitting into the (only now) "squaring" hole.
Finished, fitted and painted. The door on half lock. Just like the original the front claw fits around the door pier on half lock. The rear claw slides into the outside hole in the seat back frame and the canopy rail (I guess that is how the real one works too, from the dimensions..but I am not sure.
And full... the front claw sits inside the door pier and the rear sits in both the holes in the frame.
A very snug (MUCH to my relief!) fitting door and latch.
And the view from afar....
(if you don't mention that the is a different colour, even though from the same tin of paint, due to the main body floor seal coating fading over time, then I won't..)
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Re: Accusim & the single Spitfire...Simulator Cockpit
Are you able to 'fly' using your instruments or do you have to use the FSX panel? If so how can you convert 'real' instruments to work with data from FSX/P3dv2?
I have started collecting as many original instruments as poss, have the 'rectangular' type oil and fuel preassure gauges, an original Morse Signal key box and know where I can lay hands on El Trim gauge but dont want to part with more cash if they cannot be made to work properly...
Regards,
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I have started collecting as many original instruments as poss, have the 'rectangular' type oil and fuel preassure gauges, an original Morse Signal key box and know where I can lay hands on El Trim gauge but dont want to part with more cash if they cannot be made to work properly...
Regards,
Nick
Regards,
Nick
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Re: Accusim & the single Spitfire...Simulator Cockpit
Read this thread from start to finish if you haven't all ready it is a blow by blow buildNickD wrote:Are you able to 'fly' using your instruments or do you have to use the FSX panel? If so how can you convert 'real' instruments to work with data from FSX/P3dv2?
I have started collecting as many original instruments as poss, have the 'rectangular' type oil and fuel preassure gauges, an original Morse Signal key box and know where I can lay hands on El Trim gauge but dont want to part with more cash if they cannot be made to work properly...
Regards,
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Hey Killratio, do you still have any pictures of your simpit build somewhere.
Those who are in this thread seems to have expired.
Regards,
Anders
Those who are in this thread seems to have expired.
Regards,
Anders
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And I might add that I have just spent an enjoyable two days with Norforce while he worked his way through half a squadron of Spitfires in the Sim. It is quite a steep learning curve going from a mouse to sitting in a 1:1 operating replica!!
(Ask us about our two for one training offer on three pointers )
Cheers Ron, it was a BLAST and you handled her like a pro!!!!!
(Ask us about our two for one training offer on three pointers )
Cheers Ron, it was a BLAST and you handled her like a pro!!!!!
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Lmao nice. Next time if you can grab some video of it in action even crashing down to earth with Norforce at the control hehe
Thanks for updating the thread with some images again
Cheers,
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Thanks for updating the thread with some images again
Cheers,
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Ron did get some video of me doing (perfect) three pointers..but I think he deleted it in disgust after bending his third or fourth mount ...
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Hope that video surfaces soon
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Re: Accusim & the single Spitfire...Simulator Cockpit
Killratio wrote:And I might add that I have just spent an enjoyable two days with Norforce while he worked his way through half a squadron of Spitfires in the Sim. It is quite a steep learning curve going from a mouse to sitting in a 1:1 operating replica!!
(Ask us about our two for one training offer on three pointers )
Cheers Ron, it was a BLAST and you handled her like a pro!!!!!
Great two days mate would be back in a heart beat
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Before being dragged back into reality, I've spent a few days over the last week almost finishing the Spitfire. A few, "I'll get to it one day" type jobs.
So here it is, the second to last "final" additions post (The last being the now reconsidered, reconsidering of the thought of potentially thinking about finishing off by putting in a Spit I pump undercarriage and cockpit sidewall airscrew control).
The first job was to install the long overdue isolation switch for the door/canopy. So now if the cockpit door is not fully closed, the canopy will not close...this is because "half lock" on the real aircraft stops the canopy coming forward as the guide rail slots into the top of the door and is misaligned until fully closed.
It works by the claw on the door lock slotting in and hitting a limit switch. The cover is to protect me as I use my internet computer from hitting the sharp edges of the frame! I machined a cover base with protruding edge that an old cup cover, I had, would fit onto.
Next was to install a very solid 5 inch Ground/Flight power switch that I bought after the sim was going to be a Mk IX, while it was slated as a Mk V and before it got redesigned as a Spit I / II (yeah, I get confused too).... The power switch finally allowed me to isolate the 12 volt AT Power supply source for the gauges steppers, backlights and downlights and indicator lights from the mains.
It is mounted low and near the seat back on the starboard side of the cockpit.
And a quick shot of the stainless steel and Brass Spitfire I type cockpit plackards engraved for me by Chris. The limitations plate is a real "new old stock" and so joins the list of real parts in the sim.
And speaking of real parts...the Kygas Primer has been a nice prop for a long while now but was non-functioning (the "Boost Coil" button served as primer. Well, with the help of a magnet and a magnetic switch, the actual Primer is now used for the job, the piston having a magnet screwed into the a rubber seal and a "break to make" magnetic switch is slotted into the end of the chamber triggering the action on openning..the time delay works perfectly with the action in the sim. (which is why I chose break to make instead of the other way around). Maybe some video to show the action soon.
Last but not least, the new lighting...the Spitfire lighting was terrible but out in the sun, it doesn't matter, the cockpit is quite bright...but in a room it is hard to see anything down inside. A set of downlights has cured that and is a good compromise...so now in a darkened room, it looks like this:
I'm just sorry all of this couldn't get done before Norforce visited...COME BACK RON!!!
So here it is, the second to last "final" additions post (The last being the now reconsidered, reconsidering of the thought of potentially thinking about finishing off by putting in a Spit I pump undercarriage and cockpit sidewall airscrew control).
The first job was to install the long overdue isolation switch for the door/canopy. So now if the cockpit door is not fully closed, the canopy will not close...this is because "half lock" on the real aircraft stops the canopy coming forward as the guide rail slots into the top of the door and is misaligned until fully closed.
It works by the claw on the door lock slotting in and hitting a limit switch. The cover is to protect me as I use my internet computer from hitting the sharp edges of the frame! I machined a cover base with protruding edge that an old cup cover, I had, would fit onto.
Next was to install a very solid 5 inch Ground/Flight power switch that I bought after the sim was going to be a Mk IX, while it was slated as a Mk V and before it got redesigned as a Spit I / II (yeah, I get confused too).... The power switch finally allowed me to isolate the 12 volt AT Power supply source for the gauges steppers, backlights and downlights and indicator lights from the mains.
It is mounted low and near the seat back on the starboard side of the cockpit.
And a quick shot of the stainless steel and Brass Spitfire I type cockpit plackards engraved for me by Chris. The limitations plate is a real "new old stock" and so joins the list of real parts in the sim.
And speaking of real parts...the Kygas Primer has been a nice prop for a long while now but was non-functioning (the "Boost Coil" button served as primer. Well, with the help of a magnet and a magnetic switch, the actual Primer is now used for the job, the piston having a magnet screwed into the a rubber seal and a "break to make" magnetic switch is slotted into the end of the chamber triggering the action on openning..the time delay works perfectly with the action in the sim. (which is why I chose break to make instead of the other way around). Maybe some video to show the action soon.
Last but not least, the new lighting...the Spitfire lighting was terrible but out in the sun, it doesn't matter, the cockpit is quite bright...but in a room it is hard to see anything down inside. A set of downlights has cured that and is a good compromise...so now in a darkened room, it looks like this:
I'm just sorry all of this couldn't get done before Norforce visited...COME BACK RON!!!
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