VFR flying in the old Cub! And Altitude question?

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VFR flying in the old Cub! And Altitude question?

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Hello everyone,

I have recently started a flight sim blog. Below are two post about flights with the A2A Piper Cub!

Backcountry flying through Idaho
http://deskpilot518.blogspot.com/2013/1 ... 78-to.html

VFR Niagrara Falls
http://deskpilot518.blogspot.com/2013/1 ... -cysn.html

I just love the Cub and wish everyone would purchase this exceptional airplane! :lol: :D :o

One question. Is there a limitation as to how high an area the Cub is typically flown? (In real world)
For example KJAC airport in Yellowstone has an elevation of 6500 ft! Not a lot of engine power for takeoff in the old cub at this altitude ! Would we realistically see the cub in this area?
For my Idaho trip, I was landing and taking off around around 4600 feet and it was quite an experience !

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Very nice, thanks for posting, that little cub has certainly been a popular simulation for us 8)

You might want to also check out our Accu-sim C172 Trainer, she can get in and out some little places too but with slightly more grunt under the hood.

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I believe the cub has been flown up to 10K feet at the very limit of its capability with 2 light passengers. Their story is covered in the book "Flight of Passage".

I would not want to try that in a drafty J-3 cockpit with an ineffective heater. I can only imagine how long it would take to climb up that high while barely making any progress due to the winds aloft. :shock:

I am not sure how popular the J-3 is at high altitude airports. I suspect it is not because it is not a very good climber even at sea level.

That aside it is still one of my favorite airplanes to fly.
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I don't know if the A2A models mixture control capability in their Cub. But I asked my wife who used to own and fly one. The highest her Cub ever reached was around 5000ft, and that was after quite a bit of time and effort. She did know of at least one pilot who flew his Cub from the Central California coast to Minden, Nevada. He was a very experienced glider pilot and made use of thermals to gain enough altitude to safely make the jump over the Sierras.

Sadly, she sold her Cub just a few weeks before we met. I Know.... :( :(

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Thanks everyone :D

This just the sort of information I was looking for!

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As far as I can tell with the cub there is a simple fuel on/off lever that's it. No leaning or enriching. So the higher you go the less power you will have. I have been doing a cross the USA flight in the cub and flying through the Rockies was very interesting. Never want to do it in real life but I think I managed to get up around 9500 ft and she was sluggish and very mushy on the controls.
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Oracle427 wrote:I believe the cub has been flown up to 10K feet at the very limit of its capability with 2 light passengers. Their story is covered in the book "Flight of Passage".
That is a very good book, BTW. I don't think it was a J-3, maybe a Super Cub (more hp and a mixture control?)

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Li'lJugs wrote:
Oracle427 wrote:I believe the cub has been flown up to 10K feet at the very limit of its capability with 2 light passengers. Their story is covered in the book "Flight of Passage".
That is a very good book, BTW. I don't think it was a J-3, maybe a Super Cub (more hp and a mixture control?)

Don't forget the great Stearman men!
Indeed, "Flight of Passage" is a very good read. I actually bought it after reading about it here on the A2A-forum.

Their Cub was an 85 hp job, but still without a mixture-control and no radios. The flight through the Rockies is an amazing read. Will probably try to replicate that trip some day - paper charts and all. :-)

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Medtner wrote:Indeed, "Flight of Passage" is a very good read. I actually bought it after reading about it here on the A2A-forum.

Their Cub was an 85 hp job, but still without a mixture-control and no radios. The flight through the Rockies is an amazing read. Will probably try to replicate that trip some day - paper charts and all. :-)
Is this the book by Jon Martin Watts? The 'blurb' about it in iBooks describes it thus: "A space traveler's search for a downed scout ship and its crew turns up a stone-age civilization with an astonishing and poignant history."

Doesn't sound like a Cub adventure to me :lol:
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There is no mixture control for the J3. I believe RW aircraft normally operating at higher altitudes, would have their carbs set for the higher altitudes. Although you cannot do this with the J3, you can cheat a little. Set auto mixture on in FSX. For this plane only.

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Flight of Passage: A Memoir
by Rinker Buck

http://www.amazon.com/Flight-Passage-Me ... 0786883154

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DC3 wrote:Flight of Passage: A Memoir
by Rinker Buck

http://www.amazon.com/Flight-Passage-Me ... 0786883154
Many thanks DC3 :)
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Just ordered "Flight of Passage" from King County Library System. Will check it out.

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"Flight of Passage" is excellent (wish I could remember what I did with it) After reading it, I went out, bought a World Atlas and mapped out their flight. It was fun. Fun factor was probably amped up a bit by being able to use A2A's cub.

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I'll have to get this
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