Still Great after all these years

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Still Great after all these years

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Flying FS9 again. FSX is just too much for my current PC. Reinstalled 2004 with my old Wings of Power aircraft and WWII Fighters CD.

True Bliss. These aircraft still hold up great and bring many :D :D :D :D
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Thanks for posting.

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I just finished jumping back into flying a desk since I took up flying lessons again (soaring this time), and revived my old Windows XP machine. Basically burned it down and rebuilt it from two freshly-formatted hard drives. Took almost two days to completely get the setup going again. Some drivers I had on media, some I was able download. A long, arduous process but worth it. FS9 performs beautifully on this box, which was just about as hot a machine as one could build in 2005.

I have new machine with Windows 10 etcetera, run X-Plane, P3D, Condor 2, FSX Steam Edition. Steam Edition is excellent, and runs all the A2A stuff fine (I don't do Accusim, just the stick and rudder stuff). The flight dynamics are simply done better in FS9; FSX is pretty darn good and better in some ways, but FS9, in my opinion, is best platform for actual flight simulation as opposed to gaming. P3D has done away with quite a few features but is still pretty good, a welcome followup to FSX.

It's amazing what one can learn about flying when there is no engine on the aircraft. You get one landing and it better be a good one... :wink:

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Nachtflieger wrote:I just finished jumping back into flying a desk since I took up flying lessons again (soaring this time), and revived my old Windows XP machine. Basically burned it down and rebuilt it from two freshly-formatted hard drives. Took almost two days to completely get the setup going again. Some drivers I had on media, some I was able download. A long, arduous process but worth it. FS9 performs beautifully on this box, which was just about as hot a machine as one could build in 2005.

I have new machine with Windows 10 etcetera, run X-Plane, P3D, Condor 2, FSX Steam Edition. Steam Edition is excellent, and runs all the A2A stuff fine (I don't do Accusim, just the stick and rudder stuff). The flight dynamics are simply done better in FS9; FSX is pretty darn good and better in some ways, but FS9, in my opinion, is best platform for actual flight simulation as opposed to gaming. P3D has done away with quite a few features but is still pretty good, a welcome followup to FSX.

It's amazing what one can learn about flying when there is no engine on the aircraft. You get one landing and it better be a good one... :wink:
You might want to give Accu-sim a go. I think you misunderstand what it is, esp if you like stick and rudder. The advanced flight modelling in the Accu-sim professional simulation software is levels above the default relaxed realism.

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Lewis - A2A wrote:
Nachtflieger wrote:I just finished jumping back into flying a desk since I took up flying lessons again (soaring this time), and revived my old Windows XP machine. Basically burned it down and rebuilt it from two freshly-formatted hard drives. Took almost two days to completely get the setup going again. Some drivers I had on media, some I was able download. A long, arduous process but worth it. FS9 performs beautifully on this box, which was just about as hot a machine as one could build in 2005.

I have new machine with Windows 10 etcetera, run X-Plane, P3D, Condor 2, FSX Steam Edition. Steam Edition is excellent, and runs all the A2A stuff fine (I don't do Accusim, just the stick and rudder stuff). The flight dynamics are simply done better in FS9; FSX is pretty darn good and better in some ways, but FS9, in my opinion, is best platform for actual flight simulation as opposed to gaming. P3D has done away with quite a few features but is still pretty good, a welcome followup to FSX.

It's amazing what one can learn about flying when there is no engine on the aircraft. You get one landing and it better be a good one... :wink:
You might want to give Accu-sim a go. I think you misunderstand what it is, esp if you like stick and rudder. The advanced flight modelling in the Accu-sim professional simulation software is levels above the default relaxed realism.

thanks,
Lewis
My machine won't run it without a huge hit to performance. Have tried it, but I like to get in the cockpit and fly without stuff blowing up and breaking. Not for me, I really like the Aircraft Factory stuff. I know that's your flagship product and have no criticism of it as such but I want to get in my airplane and expect it's already been serviced and is ready to fly.

I also thought it was pretty funny when the B-377 windshield fogged up over the Mojave Desert in practically zero percent humidity conditions. Here I am, trying to jump between the Flight Engineer's spot and the pilot's seat attempting to fly the aircraft and now I have to turn on the defogger. You might want to check those parameters, lol!

What about a version of Accusim that can have an option for a flight crew that does a perfect job, so the pilot can just do his or her job? You could select your crew members based on personality, competency, gender, experience, and so on.

The possibilities are endless:

Pick a crew who've all gone out to party the night before and are nursing terrible hangovers; I'd love to see the kinds of screwups you could program into that!

Or pick a top-notch crew where you'd expect a smooth flight or quick reaction to a problem.

And so on.

You do that, I'd buy it!

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I still don't think you understand what Accu-sim is and whats happening but to each there own, we have Aircraft Factory for the relaxed realism default flyers 8)

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Lewis - A2A wrote:I still don't think you understand what Accu-sim is and whats happening but to each there own, we have Aircraft Factory for the relaxed realism default flyers 8)

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As you say, Lewis, each to his/her own. I understand the techniques used in Accusim quite well, though, being a programmer myself, and if I wanted to simulate a lot of failures and quirks and complex checklist procedures, I'd be using it.

I know that's what's called "immersive" and I'm all for it. It'd just be nice to turn it off if desired to simulate a nice, reliable airplane. I spend enough time waiting for clearances to taxi and going through checklists, runups, and all that jazz when I'm flying real airplanes. I don't want to spend all that time when I'm on the computer. I would like to get right to the fun part.

I guess to my mind, Accusim is like waiting in slow traffic to get to that great playoff game.

Me, I just watch the game on HD television.

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Nachtflieger - I'm curious. Which Accu-Sim products do you own that feel like "waiting in slow traffic to get to that great playoff game"? If it's preflighting the aircraft you dislike, it's easy to visit the maintenance hangar and check there are no issues before each flight.

If you prefer to dispense with failures and tech issues entirely, this is also possible via the "NO DAMAGE" option in the Shift 3 menu.

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100 hours on my 172 and I have yet to experience a failure aside from any I have induced intentionally like a broken flap, or a damaged starter.

The preflight process cab take as little as 30 seconds and then your flying. I can make it take longer by setting up all the radios, following all the checklists carefully, but that doesn't change whether I'm using an Accusim aircraft or not.

The actions I do in sim are not a function of the simulated aircraft but rather the procedures I intend to simulate. The question is do you want a simulation to faithfully replicate the behaviors including the flight dynamics of the real machine as well as the avionics? You get out what you put in. The Accusim 172 is a great IFR procedures trainer.

The stock 172, not so much.

Accusim serves a totally different purpose and really can't be compared.
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