The secret airplane in development

[Piper_EEWL]

The speed of 90 kts is simply not a speed for an ordinary jet - even a slow one.

Except for the U2 of course

[AKar]

The speed of 90 kts is simply not a speed for an ordinary jet - even a slow one.

Except for the U2 of course

Of course.

I was actually expecting a turbo-normalized engine option for Bonanza since the type was effectively confirmed - or at least when a single-engine release before the eventual twin effectively was. It appears that it won't be the case, but we will carry on with tried and tested natural aspirated engine simulation. I don't mind at all another great single, but if speaking in terms of differentiating the products, that would have been an obvious way to study deeper into the piston engine tech before going into the twin world.

It would make a plausible option to me that this mystery airplane will be a turbocharged high-performance general aviation airplane. However, this talk about new release channel, instead of the traditional Accu-Sim release, kind of sets all up for a special release instead of simply continuing the lineup.

-Esa

[n421nj]

We have oxygen on all the warbirds I’m gonna say the new engine is not oxygen but an actual engine. Either turbo/prop or turbo/jet

[caleb1]

Another guess of mine is that is could be a Pilatus of some kind. 90 knots makes sense for a slow speed and it can certainly reach 18,000. The only questionable thing is would a Pilatus have oxygen mask noises?

[clarkejw]

A PC6, 9, or 21 would.

[Barfly]

My guess is a depressurization training event, in some kind of pressurized straight wing aircraft, civilian, possible one of the new, single engine light jets. Really too slow for any kind of military aircraft.

[rhenson529]

My guess is the plane climbs at 4500 ft per minute. After watching the video more, it seems it takes 4:00 to reach 18,000 ft then “Level off” at 90 kts.


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[Piper_EEWL]

I was actually expecting a turbo-normalized engine option for Bonanza since the type was effectively confirmed - or at least when a single-engine release before the eventual twin effectively was. It appears that it won't be the case, but we will carry on with tried and tested natural aspirated engine simulation. I don't mind at all another great single, but if speaking in terms of differentiating the products, that would have been an obvious way to study deeper into the piston engine tech before going into the twin world.

Is it already confirmed that there won’t be a turbo-normalized engine option for the Bonanza? If so I must have missed it. What will the three engine options be then if one of them won’t be turbo normalized?

Happy flying

[AKar]

I was actually expecting a turbo-normalized engine option for Bonanza since the type was effectively confirmed - or at least when a single-engine release before the eventual twin effectively was. It appears that it won't be the case, but we will carry on with tried and tested natural aspirated engine simulation. I don't mind at all another great single, but if speaking in terms of differentiating the products, that would have been an obvious way to study deeper into the piston engine tech before going into the twin world.

Is it already confirmed that there won’t be a turbo-normalized engine option for the Bonanza? If so I must have missed it. What will the three engine options be then if one of them won’t be turbo normalized?

It was mentioned that it will not be "turbocharged". My guess would be that this will include turbo-normalizing as it is very much the same thing. It hasn't been confirmed to my knowledge, though.

-Esa

[Piper_EEWL]

It was mentioned that it will not be "turbocharged". My guess would be that this will include turbo-normalizing as it is very much the same thing. It hasn't been confirmed to my knowledge, though.

I saw Scott’s post where he said it won’t be turbocharged but I guess I didn’t rule out turbo-normalized from that. But I see what you mean. It basically is the same. I guess we’ll have to wait and see.

Thank you

[AKar]

Yeah, I just believe that would have been an obvious place to mention if turbo-normalizing was an option.

-Esa

[rod55]

Hi Erik

A60 Duke it is then!!

: max climb 4000/min ..... 18,000 after ~4min
: "move on" from piston to turbo, a logical progression for Scott
: opportunity gap and popular demand left by the brilliant RealAir (with their passion and integrity, if you shut shop, who would you trust to keep their baby, the Turbo Duke, in best shape?)
: then I'd need oxygen too!

Rod EGBB

[AKar]

Hi Erik

A60 Duke it is then!!

: max climb 4000/min ..... 18,000 after ~4min
: "move on" from piston to turbo, a logical progression for Scott
: opportunity gap and popular demand left by the brilliant RealAir (with their passion and integrity, if you shut shop, who would you trust to keep their baby, the Turbo Duke, in best shape?)
: then I'd need oxygen too!

Rod EGBB

Couple of 'buts' :

• - Duke is pressurized, no need for masks in normal ops;
  - Dukes are born with piston engines, this turbine variant popularized by RealAir is an extensive STC modification - not sure how many of Dukes were converted;
  - the type would be B60, the STC is not applicable to the A60.

-Esa

[rod55]

Thanks Esa

"drats, drats and triple drats!!!"

I genuinely enjoyed the info you supplied ..... its been filed ..... ya live 'n learn, if yer truly lucky

Maybe it was some sort of spontaneous and emergency dental surgery needing oxygen in a B60 Duke ...... ya live in hope, if yer profoundly wise

Hope creates opportunities

Opportunites create goals! (except for Aston Villa)

Rod EGBB

[AKar]

Speaking of Duke, it is an interesting aircraft, from the very top end of the GA twin lineup. It is a heavy aircraft with relatively large wing loading, and very good handling with both engines operating according to the guys who flew ones. It is, however, technically complex and expensive to keep up, and is powered by notoriously troublesome Lycoming TIO-541-E1C engines (no counter-rotating engines in this one!) of 380 horsepower each. Against a common misconception, it is not particularly fast airplane, at least for installed horsepower, due to relatively draggy design.

It is actually a little bit shame that the exceedingly rare turbine modification that RealAir reproduced in relatively arcade way took essentially all the attention on this interesting type. Duke, no matter if with pistons or turbines, would deserve a study level simulation due to all the complexities and issues that come with such an aircraft begging to be simulated.

-Esa