The secret airplane in development

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Medtner wrote: Supermarine Walrus?

Would that be of the same origin as the Supermarine Sperm Whale, from "The Hitchhiker's Guide to The Galaxy"?
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Logical progression on this would be a T-34 Mentor. I am surprised that this has not been the go to idea here. It's a warbird that is essentially a smashed flat Bonanza with a straight tail, and lots of places in the US have dog fighting experiences that use the T-34, and 90kias at 18,000ft to make the aircraft ready for maneuvers before going to combat speed doesn't seem like a big leap to me.
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Or a T-28. How close to what has already been acccusimed are the engines in the T-34 or the T-28?
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ImpendingJoker wrote:Logical progression on this would be a T-34 Mentor. I am surprised that this has not been the go to idea here. It's a warbird that is essentially a smashed flat Bonanza with a straight tail, and lots of places in the US have dog fighting experiences that use the T-34, and 90kias at 18,000ft to make the aircraft ready for maneuvers before going to combat speed doesn't seem like a big leap to me.
T-34C that would go with the "new engine" theme. Have a PT-6 on it. Also has pressure demand o2 to give it the sound of that mask. that being said im not sure if any t-34c's are in civilian hands yet.

Edit: Quick google search appears that a few T-34C's are in civilian hands. That time that we estimate the climb performance would make a lot more sense with the C model as im not sure the A or B would climb that well with the piston engine. Just my 2 cents.

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Aerostar.

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clarkejw wrote:Aerostar.
Wouldn't have pressure demand oxygen

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A T-34C is a very good possibility, I could see an Air Combat outfit contracting A2A for a study sim T-34C. If you ran an Air Combat outfit that takes up customers with little or no flight experience, an A2A designed training sim would be an excellent tool to have around.

If this is true, it would make sense for all the secrecy, and lack of communication. Researching and modelling a PT-6 to A2A's standards would take quite a bit of R&D time/manpower. This would set them up very nicely for future projects.

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pilottj wrote:A T-34C is a very good possibility, I could see an Air Combat outfit contracting A2A for a study sim T-34C. If you ran an Air Combat outfit that takes up customers with little or no flight experience, an A2A designed training sim would be an excellent tool to have around.

If this is true, it would make sense for all the secrecy, and lack of communication. Researching and modelling a PT-6 to A2A's standards would take quite a bit of R&D time/manpower. This would set them up very nicely for future projects.

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A turboprop trainer T-34C, PC-7, Tucano...et al seem to be the only types that fit what is given so far. Whether the contract is for a private or govt training outfit, who knows, but it seems to make sense.

Didn't A2A have a hand in some jet trainers sim a few years ago?

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Medtner wrote:Now, given the new update, we have some answers (the Bonanza), but also some teasing questions.

Here's what I gleaned from the video on the secret project:

1. "New Accusim Engine".
- Could this be the jet/super-sonic physics that A2A has been researching for years?

2. Oxygen.
- The sound of masks gives some indications.
- "Settle at 18 thousand"

3. Jet-trainer?
- "You've got the aircraft" - instructor, not a give-away, but an indication.
- "Set power and trim for 90 knots" - at 18k. this could be a trainer. T-33?


Sounds like the dawn of a new age to me! :-D
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SKYVAN CAN DO!

even though I highly doubt that it is the secret airplane.
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A T-34 Mentor would be excellent....I logged 12 hours in one at Turner AFB, Georgia. :lol:

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MaxZ wrote: I am sorry to chime in here so late, but:

SKYVAN CAN DO!

even though I highly doubt that it is the secret airplane.
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Cons: Ugly
I would maybe say unique instead of cool but definitely ugly yes :wink: :mrgreen: :mrgreen:
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As they say about helis,they don't fly they're just so ugly the earth repels them lol.

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LouP wrote:As they say about helis,they don't fly they're just so ugly the earth repels them lol.

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b3a wrote:Ugly gets the job done, Like the Cessna Caravan.
Well, yes and no. Knowing both types in slight depth, Caravan is rather simple, modestly rugged airplane with rather good product support and support systems. Skyvan is of unnecessarily difficult design, relatively fragile construction and lacks of factory support. The Skyvan is an interesting airplane, and in its own way a rather cool type, but it has its other problems outside the looks which probably prevented it of ever being of any significance as a mainstream type.

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