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IMPORTANT: Check your controller sensitivities

Posted: 22 Jun 2015, 13:07
by Scott - A2A
There is a pretty big thread going on at AVSIM (http://forum.avsim.net/topic/470166-a2a ... anche-250/), about our recent Accu-Sim Comanche 250 release, that has turned into a discussion on controller sensitivities. The good news is, people have almost universally discovered their flying is better with their controller sensitivities all hard RIGHT.

We discovered and posted in this thread, that these sliders aren't really "sensitivity" but a delay. The more left the sensitivity, the larger the delay, and the harder an airplane is to control, as you are forever behind the aircraft. Usually, this results in a lot of UP and DOWN behavior on flare, as you are constantly chasing the plane (like a dog chasing it's tail).

Here is a short video we made, demonstrating what this slider does. Make sure, in SETTINGS, all of your controller sensitivities are FULL RIGHT, and VERY SMALL null zones, if any.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UL5gsRg2Xo4

Scott.

Re: IMPORTANT: FSX Users - Check your controller sensitiviti

Posted: 22 Jun 2015, 13:38
by Bruce Hamilton
What's your view on the null zones, Scott? Default good?

Re: IMPORTANT: FSX Users - Check your controller sensitiviti

Posted: 22 Jun 2015, 13:50
by Scott - A2A
All my null zones are on FULL LEFT, min. If you then find you need a null zone for a controller, slowly dial it in until it's just right for you.

Scott.

Re: IMPORTANT: FSX Users - Check your controller sensitiviti

Posted: 22 Jun 2015, 15:14
by MarcE
ouha.. Thanks Scott for that posting! And I was wondering all the time why my aierons and elevator were so delayed, no matter what plane or developer :D

Greets,
Marc

Re: IMPORTANT: FSX Users - Check your controller sensitiviti

Posted: 22 Jun 2015, 15:21
by robert41
I have all controls set to maximum sensitivity. With my newer flight stick, I can keep the nulls set at minimum.

Re: IMPORTANT: FSX Users - Check your controller sensitiviti

Posted: 22 Jun 2015, 16:37
by EnDSchultz
I've known this for quite a while. Unfortunately, my controller's a cheap joystick so I have to maintain a rather huge null zone on certain axes.

As for sensitivity, I keep all my sensitivities one tick short of maximum...This gives almost instantaneous response but is just enough to filter out the jittering noise in my crappy joystick.

Re: IMPORTANT: FSX Users - Check your controller sensitiviti

Posted: 22 Jun 2015, 16:39
by Scott - A2A
EnDSchultz wrote:As for sensitivity, I keep all my sensitivities one tick short of maximum...This gives almost instantaneous response but is just enough to filter out the jittering noise in my crappy joystick.
Good point, one notch from the right could act as a noise controller. BTW, get a good controller for heaven's sake. They should last a very very long time.

Scott.

Re: IMPORTANT: FSX Users - Check your controller sensitiviti

Posted: 22 Jun 2015, 16:43
by G-BJPS
Thanks Scott :) just made a beautiful landing in '29P' an absolute Greaser if I may say so myself 8) about -1 FPM with a tiny flicker of Stall light.

John.

Edit: I use the Saitek pro flight yoke and throttle quadrant.

Re: IMPORTANT: FSX Users - Check your controller sensitiviti

Posted: 22 Jun 2015, 16:45
by EnDSchultz
Scott - A2A wrote:
EnDSchultz wrote:As for sensitivity, I keep all my sensitivities one tick short of maximum...This gives almost instantaneous response but is just enough to filter out the jittering noise in my crappy joystick.
BTW, get a good controller for heaven's sake. They should last a very very long time.

Scott.
I keep telling myself that, but I'm a college student majoring in professional piloting (which is not cheap in the slightest) and I feel terrible whenever I spend money on anything else...buying the Comanche stretched my conscience as far as it will go. :lol:

Re: IMPORTANT: FSX Users - Check your controller sensitiviti

Posted: 23 Jun 2015, 03:32
by lonewulf47
Sorry to say, but reading this thread I feel somewhat embarrassed and shocked that after more than 10 years of unchanged controller behaviour (FS9 and FSX are the same, I don't remember previous versions) people are still not aware of the importance of this controller setting. Funny enough people make spectacular screenshots of their planes from ever possible and impossible angle but obvioulsy never take the time to properly LOOK at their plane ! Anyway it confirms an old wisdom that in most of all complaints the REAL problem is sitting some 30 inches in front of the screen.... :D :D

Re: IMPORTANT: FSX Users - Check your controller sensitiviti

Posted: 23 Jun 2015, 03:43
by ebo
@Oscar, I am one of those culprits ;)

I must admit these settings where always a mystery to me and this is the first time I see a thread on this, explaining how they properly should be set. :oops: :oops: :oops: :oops:

@Scot, a BIG THANK YOU for enlightening me and others.

Re: IMPORTANT: FSX Users - Check your controller sensitiviti

Posted: 23 Jun 2015, 07:14
by stevekirks
I had no idea that the sensitivity slider actually behaved this way. I've had it full sensitive since the Cherokee, but I never took the time to understand what it really did. Thanks A2A Team!

Re: IMPORTANT: FSX Users - Check your controller sensitiviti

Posted: 23 Jun 2015, 07:30
by Kermit70
I know this can be annoying, but I would like to know what is your opinion / advice on using FSUIPC4 to calibrate controllers.
I am usually quite happy with it when using other aircrafts, but with A2A I am just afraid to make more damage than good...
I am currently using C172 and Cherokee, but I have my eyes on the new Comanchee...

Please your thoughts, Scott?

Thanks!

Re: IMPORTANT: FSX Users - Check your controller sensitiviti

Posted: 23 Jun 2015, 07:33
by CodyValkyrie
I think this is why the old sensitivity_stick_mode fix worked, as it seemed to disconnect the slider from my experience. Since understanding that I can just slide it all the way to the right and drop my null zone I haven't been using that old tweak.

Re: IMPORTANT: FSX Users - Check your controller sensitiviti

Posted: 23 Jun 2015, 07:34
by Scott - A2A
Kermit,

I only install software on my computer or flight simulator I absolutely need. So far, I've had no reason or need to use FSUIPC, so I can't really offer much advice on using it. All I can say is, you shouldn't need it for A2A aircraft.

Scott.