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Real Life: Airman First Class (E-3) 140th AMXS; Buckley AFB, CO

Each always to his/her own...

Everyone is entitled to an opinion, just don't expect everyone to share that opinion...

Iconic is in the eyes of the beholders... The Boeing 737 series is iconic to some, as is the MD80 series...

Just the fact that so many pilots completed their advanced training on the T6 prior to their transitioning to the actual combat aircraft makes the Texan/Harvard certainly one of the more important planes of the 30s and early 40s...

My opinion is mine, but facts are facts...

Anyway, A2A decide what they do next, depending on what they have access to, my guess...

Andrew

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Ok kiddies might be time to lock up the hanger and go outside and play Then when you come back there may be some new aircraft parked outside.

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Too true Maggie Mae... though much of what is written remains a little tongue in cheek... The whole nature of the forum makes sarcastic whit a little difficult to portray with any effect...

Thanks for referring to me as Kiddies... does my 42-year-old bashed ego a world of good...



Andrew

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Well, I've said it before maybe too many times... Bring on the AT-6/SNJ!!! Thanks Scott for at least not denying it's possible existence. As was vigorously discussed before, the T-6 was not a front-line fighter in WWII, although during it's lifespan it certainly saw real combat in several instances. It was in service before, during and after WWII, and a large percentage of Allied pilots trained in them. Everyboday has, and is entitled to their opinions... Mine is that this is one of the most iconic aircraft in history, due to the fact that WWII was won (aka the world as we know it was saved) in no small part by pilots who gained their skills and confidence flying this special warbird.

Joe

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ha really?? that is intresting!! got any more info?

Yes.




"During the Korean War and, to a lesser extent, the Vietnam War, T-6s were pressed into service as forward air control aircraft. These aircraft were designated T-6 "Mosquitos".[1] No. 1340 Flight RAF used the Harvard in Kenya against the Mau Mau in the 1950s, where they operated with 20 lb bombs and machine guns against the gangs. Some operations took place at altitudes around 20,000 ft above mean sea level. A Harvard was the longest-serving RAF aeroplane, with an example, taken on strength in 1945, still serving in the 1990s (as a chase plane for helicopter test flights—a role for which the Shorts Tucano's high stall speed was ill-suited). The T-6G was also used in a light attack or counter insurgency role by France during the Algerian war in special Escadrilles d'Aviation Légère d'Appui (EALA), armed with machine guns, bombs and rockets. At its peak, there were 38 EALAs active. The largest unit was the Groupe d'Aviation Légère d'Appui 72, which consisted of up to 21 EALAs. From 1961 to 1975, Portugal, also, used hundreds of T-6G in the counter insurgency role during the Portuguese Colonial War. During this war, almost all the Portuguese Air Force bases and air fields in Angola, Mozambique and Portuguese Guinea had a detachment of T-6Gs. In 1957-58, the Spanish Air Force used T-6 as counterinsurgency aircraft in the Ifni War, armed with machine guns, iron bombs and rockets, achieving an excellent reputation due to its reliability, safety record and resistance to damage. Pakistan Air Force use T-6Gs in 1971 war as a night ground support aircraft hitting enemy soft transport vehicles.In the early hours of 5 December, during a convoy interdiction mission in the same area, Squadron Leader Israr Quresh's T-6G Harvard was hit by enemy ground fire and a shell fractured the pilot’s right arm. Profusely bleeding, the pilot flew the aircraft back with his left hand and landed safely. The World War II vintage prop-engined trainers were pressed into service and performed satisfactorily in the assigned role of enemy convoys at night."

Taken from Wikipedia, but it still holds water.

In addition, the Mid-Atlantic Air Museum (who host the awesome annual WWII Weekend) claim a Mexican T-6 sank a German U-Boat in WWII, although I have nothing to back up or refute their claim.


Yes, dear stiz, the T-6 really does have a solid combat record.

Joe

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Well, they've already got a Cub and Mustang, might as well go ahead and make a Stearman and Texan, and an F-86 wouldn't be bad. You'd be able to go right through the training progression.

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Hello guys
How about doing the A-26 Invader ?
I was talking with a friend, He's got to be ninety years old is an Instructor pilot in both single and multi engine aircraft and still teaches and fly's nearly everyday ! He's been flying for 70 years.
I was asking him about flying during the war and aviation stuff in general.
He's flown a lot of warbirds in combat in the pacific and later and just about every other kind of prop.
So anyways I asked the inevitable question, What was the best airplane you ever flew ? He said in combat or civilian aircraft ?
Then he stopped himself waved his hands and said, It's the B-26 Invader you may know it as the A-26 Invader if you've ever even heard of it ?
I nodded I had, so he went on. Saying that The A-26 was by far the best propeller driven aircraft he has ever flown and is the best Prop aircraft ever built bar none. I asked even better than the P-51 ?
He told me look by the time the A-26's came out, they had gone about as far as you could with a prop and they had everything worked out.
He continued saying, I transitioned to multi engines in the P-38f because the army could train you for the cheap, that plane was the worst abomination ever thrust upon us. But they kind of fixed it later on with the air brake.
The P-47 was big and it was good at what it did best and that was ground attacks, I didn't like the visibility in the early ones but at least you could duck behind some metal on the way out of a run. And it was nice flying at altitude also.
He thought the P-51's were kind of overrated, because one lil pin hole and you might be eating rice or swimming home and that was only if you were lucky he said, But a P-51 was really great to fly !

But that the A-26's could actually dog fight with a P-51 and turn inside one and get on it's tail ! And that he'd done it many times. It could do the same things as the fighters and anything a bomber could do. Further by the time the Japs knew that a raid was going on we were long gone and the Island was burning or the ships were sinking, It was that fast.
It had basically the same engines as the P-47 only two of them so it doubled your survivability.
He also told me they flew many pathfinder missions for the B-29's because they were so high up they could never find the targets so we'd get it burning for them. Sometimes they still couldn't see it we'd go back hit the place again and by the time we were done the whole place would be on fire and there was nothing left for them to bomb. This man is incredible to talk with to say the least. And when it comes to aircraft, I'll take his word.

So with It's service record from WW2 through Korea and Vietnam and firefighting today. Just think of the repaint possibilities alone. And the R-2800 well that engine just speaks for itself.
We need this girl accu-simmed heres a link I found with great pics drawings etc. http://napoleon130.tripod.com/