CTD in RAF campaign just when I press "frag" button

[PieceOfCake]

First time it works, but ALWAYS the second time after I have flown a mission / my plane gets shot down and I want to re-enter the game again it CTD.
I have to exit the game, restart it to be able to play again.
Pisses me off

[PV]

Unfortunately, we don''t have a coder around these days to
look at crashes and figure them out, but I can do a pretty good
imitation, if you post the relevant crashlog. You know the
drill, right? The crashlog.txt file, start from the bottom, and
go up til you find the nearest (last) instance of the line that
starts

------------ Begin of section written with bob.exe, Build/Rebuild all date:

and then check that about 30 lines below that there's a line starting

Error occurred at

which then shows a date which should match when the crash occurred.
Collect all the text between those two lines, plus another ten or so lines
further down, and paste it into a post here. And give an approximate
summary of your hardware and OS.

Then I will look at it, and noting that Buddye was pretty much convinced
that we had stomped out all the bugs inherent to the code, so I will look
for the indicators that it is a crash due to something impinging on the
program from the windows environment. Things like "ACCESS_VIOLATION
in module <UNKNOWN>" or "in module ntdll.dll" or module kernel.dll, all of
which indicate that windows is misbehaving, usually because some other
piece of hardware or software is not doing its job properly.

And that's all I can do, except to try to guess or speculate about what
exactly it might be - antivirus, hiccupping joystick, video driver, etc.
For instance, if you happen to have a 32-bit version of Vista or Win7,
there is a 2GB memory limit issue that has to be addressed when running
2.11 or 2.12, which tend to be RAM gluttons.

[PieceOfCake]

Hi, I wrote something wrong in my first post: It happends when I click the "fly" button and when the game is about to switch from 2d to 3d.
And I can not fly two missions in a row. I have to exit the game, and enter it again to fly again. This happends both in quick missions and in the campaign.

I get no CTD while I am flying so I don't think it's something to do with my joystick. I also have windows 7 pro 64 with 6 gb of Ram. i7 3,4 ghz and Radeon 6950 with 2 gb ram.
The game runs smooth as silk.

About the installation: I installed first the 2.06, then the 2.12. then added the late 2.12 fix files, then I added the 2.13 campaign exe file (bob.exe) and then the english file.

Here is the crashlog:

"------------ Begin of section written with bob.exe, Build/Rebuild all date: Oct 30 2014 09:45:37 ---------------------------
Bob.exe caused a EXCEPTION_ACCESS_VIOLATION in module AppProfiles.dll at 0023:69D9ABB4, SignalExitHook()+167929 byte(s)
Exception handler called in int CMIGApp::Run().
Read from location 00000024 caused an access violation.
Code: ff 51 24 85 c0 7c 2e ff b3 20 32 00 00 8b 0d 34
Stack dump:
Stack: 0023:69D9ABB4 (0x0018C438 0x00000040 0x0018C408 0x0018C420) AppProfiles.dll, SignalExitHook()+167929 byte(s)
Stack: 0023:7605384C (0x0018C96C 0x087E8A20 0x087E8A20 0x9AAF7580) KERNELBASE.dll, OpenThread()+73 byte(s)
Stack: 0023:774B8871 (0x19B5A060 0x00000000 0x00000000 0x00000000) ntdll.dll, RtlQueryPerformanceFrequency()+21 byte(s)
Stack: 0023:0053F1C7 (0x00000000 0x08470048 0x0054A3B9 0xD6098B9D) Bob.exe, Lib3D::ScreenSwap()+39 byte(s), e:\merlin\bob\src\lib3d\lib3d.cpp, line 2457
Stack: 0023:0052BC78 (0xD6098B9D 0x00607A80 0xD60988F5 0x05566348) Bob.exe, Renderer::EndScene()+24 byte(s), e:\merlin\bob\src\lib3d\renderd3d9.cpp, line 2698+14 byte(s)
Stack: 0023:0054A3B9 (0xD60988F5 0x05566348 0x06159E08 0x006CAD48) Bob.exe, Lib3D::EndScene()+73 byte(s), e:\merlin\bob\src\lib3d\lib3d.cpp, line 2974+10 byte(s)
Stack: 0023:00607A80 (0x00000000 0xD609B10D 0x006C7D24 0x15A5F3C0) Bob.exe, COverlay::LoaderScreen()+1495 byte(s), e:\merlin\bob\src\3d\overlay.cpp, line 4197
Stack: 0023:00419B56 (0x00001000 0x00000000 0x00000000 0x00000000) Bob.exe, View3d::MakePassive()+1488 byte(s), e:\merlin\bob\src\mfc\stub3d.cpp, line 1347
Stack: 0023:00419F3D (0x00001000 0x00000000 0x00000000 0x00000000) Bob.exe, View3d::MakeInteractive()+51 byte(s), e:\merlin\bob\src\mfc\stub3d.cpp, line 1137+23 byte(s)
Stack: 0023:0040A65E (0x00000000 0x0040D759 0x00423CD2 0x00000000) Bob.exe, Rtestsh1::Launch3d()+420 byte(s), e:\merlin\bob\src\mfc\rtestsh1.cpp, line 283
Stack: 0023:0040CDAD (0x00423CD2 0x00000000 0x00000000 0xD609BECD) Bob.exe, Rtestsh1::OnGetString()+13 byte(s), e:\merlin\bob\src\mfc\rtestsh1.cpp, line 238
Stack: 0023:0040D759 (0x00000000 0x00000000 0xD609BECD 0x00000410) Bob.exe, Rtestsh1::MSG2_OnGetString()+5 byte(s), e:\merlin\bob\src\h\rtestsh1.h, line 71+5 byte(s)
Stack: 0023:00423CD2 (0x00000410 0x00000000 0x006C9790 0x0018FCD0) Bob.exe, CWnd::OnWndMsg()+1268 byte(s), f:\dd\vctools\vc7libs\ship\atlmfc\src\mfc\wincore.cpp, line 2194+8 byte(s)
Stack: 0023:0041EFF8 (0x00000410 0x00000000 0x00000000 0xD609BF45) Bob.exe, CWnd::WindowProc()+34 byte(s), f:\dd\vctools\vc7libs\ship\atlmfc\src\mfc\wincore.cpp, line 1741+23 byte(s)
Stack: 0023:00421CB9 (0x00000000 0x001B02C0 0x00000410 0x00000000) Bob.exe, AfxCallWndProc()+154 byte(s), f:\dd\vctools\vc7libs\ship\atlmfc\src\mfc\wincore.cpp, line 243
Stack: 0023:00421D46 (0x001B02C0 0x00000410 0x00000000 0x00000000) Bob.exe, AfxWndProc()+52 byte(s), f:\dd\vctools\vc7libs\ship\atlmfc\src\mfc\wincore.cpp, line 388+16 byte(s)
Stack: 0023:76526238 (0x00421D12 0x001B02C0 0x00000410 0x00000000) USER32.dll, gapfnScSendMessage()+624 byte(s)
Stack: 0023:765268EA (0x0670008C 0x00421D12 0x001B02C0 0x00000410) USER32.dll, gapfnScSendMessage()+2338 byte(s)
Stack: 0023:76527D31 (0x00421D12 0x00000001 0x0018FEE0 0x0042C507) USER32.dll, LoadStringW()+287 byte(s)
Stack: 0023:76528112 (0x066DEAE8 0x007A20E0 0x7653064F 0x0040ECDB) USER32.dll, DispatchMessageA()+15 byte(s)
Stack: 0023:0042C507 (0xD609BC99 0x007A1BC0 0x007A1BC0 0xFFFFFFFF) Bob.exe, AfxInternalPumpMessage()+62 byte(s), f:\dd\vctools\vc7libs\ship\atlmfc\src\mfc\thrdcore.cpp, line 183
Stack: 0023:0040ECDB (0x00001DB1 0x00000002 0x00000001 0x0047A825) Bob.exe, CMIGApp::Run()+437 byte(s), e:\merlin\bob\src\mfc\mig.cpp, line 2002+8 byte(s)
Stack: 0023:006909AF (0x00400000 0x00000000 0x066729A2 0x00000001) Bob.exe, AfxWinMain()+104 byte(s), f:\dd\vctools\vc7libs\ship\atlmfc\src\mfc\winmain.cpp, line 47+7 byte(s)
Stack: 0023:0047A825 (0xFFFDE000 0x0018FFD4 0x774B9F72 0xFFFDE000) Bob.exe, __tmainCRTStartup()+375 byte(s), f:\dd\vctools\crt_bld\self_x86\crt\src\crt0.c, line 324+28 byte(s)
Stack: 0023:76AC338A (0xFFFDE000 0x779C8105 0x00000000 0x00000000) kernel32.dll, BaseThreadInitThunk()+18 byte(s)
Stack: 0023:774B9F72 (0x0047A88E 0xFFFDE000 0x00000000 0x00000000) ntdll.dll, RtlInitializeExceptionChain()+99 byte(s)
Stack: 0023:774B9F45 (0x0047A88E 0xFFFDE000 0x00000000 0x78746341) ntdll.dll, RtlInitializeExceptionChain()+54 byte(s)

Stack dump (old format):
0018ffdc: 0047a88e fffde000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 0047a88e fffde000
0018fffc: 00000000

EAX=096DD7C0 EBX=00000001 ECX=00000000 EDX=066EFEF8 ESI=00000000
EDI=066FD1C8 EBP=0018FFEC ESP=0018FFDC EIP=774B9F45 FLG=00010246
CS=0023 DS=002B SS=002B ES=002B FS=0053 GS=002B
Error occurred at 11/8/2014 10:09:18.
D:\BoB2\Bob.exe, run by TAS.
8 processor(s), type 586.
0 MBytes physical memory.
OS: 6.1 build 7601 platform 2 Service Pack 1

Module list: names, addresses, sizes, time stamps and file times:
D:\BoB2\Bob.exe, loaded at 0x00400000 - 4472832 bytes - 545a7429 - file date is 11/5/2014 20:02:04
C:\Windows\system32\d3dx9_30.dll, loaded at 0x06770000 - 2388176 bytes - 442d83c4 - file date is 3/31/2006 12:40:58
C:\Program Files (x86)\NaturalPoint\TrackIR5\NPClient.dll, loaded at 0x0adb0000 - 9728 bytes - 5110865d - file date is 2/4/2013 19:11:12
d:\BoB2\English\text\boblang.dll, loaded at 0x0cd20000 - 684032 bytes - 543d4f4a - file date is 11/8/2014 04:15:08
D:\BoB2\muParser.dll, loaded at 0x10000000 - 225280 bytes - 428e0f2d - file date is 11/13/2007 18:25:56
C:\PROGRA~2\COMMON~1\merlin\ocx\Rbutton.ocx, loaded at 0x10100000 - 401408 bytes - 45ab6c8c - file date is 1/15/2007 07:59:10
C:\PROGRA~2\COMMON~1\merlin\ocx\REdtBt.ocx, loaded at 0x10400000 - 389120 bytes - 45ab6cbc - file date is 1/15/2007 07:59:58
C:\PROGRA~2\COMMON~1\merlin\ocx\RListBox.ocx, loaded at 0x10600000 - 503808 bytes - 45ab6cda - file date is 1/15/2007 08:00:28
C:\PROGRA~2\COMMON~1\merlin\ocx\Rscrlbar.ocx, loaded at 0x10700000 - 376832 bytes - 45ab6d00 - file date is 1/15/2007 08:01:06
C:\PROGRA~2\COMMON~1\merlin\ocx\RStatic.ocx, loaded at 0x10a00000 - 385024 bytes - 45ab6d4c - file date is 1/15/2007 08:02:22"

[PV]

Aha. This was easy: BoB.exe is passing a request to windows.
which bounces through windows ntdll.dll and kernelbase.dll,
and lands in AppProfiles.dll, which fails, and causes the crash.
AppProfiles.dll is a part of the RadionPro video driver configuration
software, and a quick websearch on that filename yields all
sorts of discussions about a version which seems to be
suggested to have a bug - v1.0.5.5 . I suggest a search in that
direction, perhaps there is an update, or a rollback is called for.

(I have an ATI/AMD card, but I've never bothered to update
the drivers since I got it in 2010, as it works perfectly fine,
and mine does not seem to have an AppProfiles.dll file. )

[PieceOfCake]

I hate this piece of ?()^ sim to be honest. Most friggin unstable sim ever created.

Should be renamed "BoB 2: CTD"

But I still love it at the same time

It's a time machine. Not sure why this sim of all sims really makes you feel you play in ww2.


But not gonna roll back another driver just because 1 out of 5 sims I play can't handle it.

I think you would have to build one computer just around this sim to make it work decent; the excact directx driver, the excact video card, with the excact driver, the excact OS, the excact....aaarrggggg!!!!

hope someone will make worthwile Battle of britain game in the future

[stickman]

I use the AMD Catalyst 10.12 drivers which are old drivers but work well. PV uses them too.

[PieceOfCake]

Ok! Thanks! I will check out those drivers whenever I need my next battle of britain "fix"

[PieceOfCake]

Happend again; CTD when trying to fly two times in a row.
Prior to this I uninstalled previous my amd driver, then installed the one you recommended.
Why is this game so very fubar?

[PV]

Do you still have the file AppProfiles.dll on your computer?
If so, and it shows in the latest crashlog, then your rolling back
the driver didn't get rid of it. I have heard this is a problem
with AMD configuration software. In fact, stories of problems
with the newer software was the reason I was reluctant to
upgrade my drivers, and so far I haven't regretted it.

If the crashlog doesn't refer to AppProfiles.dll, then it must
be something else causing the crash this time.

Edit: I have a vague memory of people mentioning
problems with AMD cards which went away after
altering some settings in the card config software.
It is probably mentioned in some posts here. Can't
remember the details (no surprise there).