Crashlog for CTD when playing

[Deej1965]

Here is my crashlog when I get a CTD..Tks Deej----------- Begin of section written with bob.exe, Build/Rebuild all date: Dec 21 2012 17:39:32 ---------------------------
bob.exe caused a EXCEPTION_ACCESS_VIOLATION in module bob.exe at 0023:00605335, COverlay::DecisionMessage()+81 byte(s), c:\merlin\bob\src\3d\overlay.cpp, line 13701+3 byte(s)
Exception handler called in drawloop.
Read from location 00000000 caused an access violation.
Code: ff 10 8b f0 0f bf 45 0c 6b c0 0c 03 f0 74 29 ff
Stack dump:
Stack: 0023:00605335 (0x30004300 0x00000001 0x0D80DE48 0x10F22C50) bob.exe, COverlay::DecisionMessage()+81 byte(s), c:\merlin\bob\src\3d\overlay.cpp, line 13701+3 byte(s)
Stack: 0023:00606B13 (0x00794B64 0x00000001 0xA91B4545 0x745D3320) bob.exe, MapScr::SelectFromUserOptions()+84 byte(s), c:\merlin\bob\src\3d\overlay.cpp, line 7554
Stack: 0023:0060DD68 (0x10F192DC 0x050686C0 0x10F18FB0 0x3F7FE18B) bob.exe, COverlay::ProcessUIScreen()+2561 byte(s), c:\merlin\bob\src\3d\overlay.cpp, line 4934
Stack: 0023:00601AEC (0x10F18FB0 0x09CB7398 0x75EE16EE 0x5B2F1588) bob.exe, ThreeDee::render3d()+2915 byte(s), c:\merlin\bob\src\3d\3dcode.cpp, line 2201
Stack: 0023:00601C56 (0x08C00048 0x10F18FB0 0x09CB7398 0xA91B4095) bob.exe, ThreeDee::render()+124 byte(s), c:\merlin\bob\src\3d\3dcode.cpp, line 4840
Stack: 0023:0041A13E (0x5B2F1588 0xA91B4191 0x00000000 0x10C5A4C0) bob.exe, View3d::drawloop()+357 byte(s), c:\merlin\bob\src\mfc\stub3d.cpp, line 1827
Stack: 0023:0042C8BA (0x0017FB3C 0xA91B4159 0x00000000 0x10C5A4C0) bob.exe, _AfxThreadEntry()+218 byte(s), f:\dd\vctools\vc7libs\ship\atlmfc\src\mfc\thrdcore.cpp, line 109+5 byte(s)
Stack: 0023:004777B0 (0x00000000 0x75F5F271 0x10C5A4C0 0x11E3FFD4) bob.exe, _callthreadstartex()+27 byte(s), f:\dd\vctools\crt_bld\self_x86\crt\src\threadex.c, line 348+6 byte(s)
Stack: 0023:00477855 (0x10C5A4C0 0x11E3FFD4 0x774FD819 0x10C5A4C0) bob.exe, _threadstartex()+127 byte(s), f:\dd\vctools\crt_bld\self_x86\crt\src\threadex.c, line 326+5 byte(s)
Stack: 0023:75F5F271 (0x10C5A4C0 0x6C6B2976 0x00000000 0x00000000) kernel32.dll, BaseThreadInitThunk()+14 byte(s)
Stack: 0023:774FD819 (0x004777D6 0x10C5A4C0 0x00000000 0x00000000) ntdll.dll, RtlCreateUserProcess()+140 byte(s)
Stack: 0023:774FDA2B (0x004777D6 0x10C5A4C0 0x00000000 0x236B0000) ntdll.dll, RtlCreateProcessParameters()+78 byte(s)

Stack dump (old format):
11e3ffdc: 004777d6 10c5a4c0 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 004777d6 10c5a4c0
11e3fffc: 00000000

EAX=00000000 EBX=0000028C ECX=30004300 EDX=00000000 ESI=05564348
EDI=05564348 EBP=11E3FFEC ESP=11E3FFDC EIP=774FDA2B FLG=00010246
CS=0023 DS=002B SS=002B ES=002B FS=0053 GS=002B
Error occurred at 10/19/2013 16:27:08.
C:\Battle of Britain II\bob.exe, run by Derrek.
4 processor(s), type 586.
0 MBytes physical memory.
OS: 6.0 build 6002 platform 2 Service Pack 2

Module list: names, addresses, sizes, time stamps and file times:
C:\Battle of Britain II\bob.exe, loaded at 0x00400000 - 4464640 bytes - 50d4f336 - file date is 1/2/2013 14:33:50
C:\Windows\system32\d3dx9_30.dll, loaded at 0x06840000 - 2388176 bytes - 442d83c4 - file date is 3/31/2006 12:40:58
C:\Battle of Britain II\English\text\boblang.dll, loaded at 0x0ba80000 - 679936 bytes - 437b62b2 - file date is 11/13/2007 13:40:50
C:\Battle of Britain II\muParser.dll, loaded at 0x10000000 - 225280 bytes - 428e0f2d - file date is 11/13/2007 18:25:56
C:\PROGRA~2\COMMON~1\merlin\ocx\Rbutton.ocx, loaded at 0x10100000 - 401408 bytes - 45ab6c8c - file date is 1/15/2007 07:59:10
C:\PROGRA~2\COMMON~1\merlin\ocx\REdtBt.ocx, loaded at 0x10400000 - 389120 bytes - 45ab6cbc - file date is 1/15/2007 07:59:58
C:\PROGRA~2\COMMON~1\merlin\ocx\RListBox.ocx, loaded at 0x10600000 - 503808 bytes - 45ab6cda - file date is 1/15/2007 08:00:28
C:\PROGRA~2\COMMON~1\merlin\ocx\Rscrlbar.ocx, loaded at 0x10700000 - 376832 bytes - 45ab6d00 - file date is 1/15/2007 08:01:06
C:\PROGRA~2\COMMON~1\merlin\ocx\RStatic.ocx, loaded at 0x10a00000 - 385024 bytes - 45ab6d4c - file date is 1/15/2007 08:02:22
C:\Windows\system32\atiumdag.dll, loaded at 0x630c0000 - 6253224 bytes - 50a69c06 - file date is 11/16/2012 17:11:10
C:\Windows\system32\atiumdva.dll, loaded at 0x64800000 - 4749312 bytes - 50a69a0a - file date is 11/16/2012 15:54:50
C:\Windows\system32\DDRAW.dll, loaded at 0x6c060000 - 522752 bytes - 4791a66c - file date is 1/20/2008 22:50:26
C:\Windows\system32\WindowsCodecs.dll, loaded at 0x6c230000 - 974848 bytes - 4abc267b - file date is 9/24/2009 22:10:12
C:\Windows\system32\aticfx32.dll, loaded at 0x6c330000 - 918528 bytes - 50a6a72e - file date is 11/16/2012 16:50:54
C:\Windows\system32\d3d9.dll, loaded at 0x6c420000 - 1788416 bytes - 49e03705 - file date is 4/10/2009 23:28:20
C:\Windows\system32\DSOUND.dll, loaded at 0x6c5e0000 - 444416 bytes - 49e0375c - file date is 4/10/2009 23:28:20
C:\Windows\system32\D3DIM700.DLL, loaded at 0x6c720000 - 816128 bytes - 4791a65f - file date is 1/20/2008 22:49:12
C:\Windows\system32\IconCodecService.dll, loaded at 0x6f7d0000 - 9728 bytes - 4549bcec - file date is 11/2/2006 11:01:42
C:\Windows\system32\DCIMAN32.dll, loaded at 0x6f7e0000 - 10240 bytes - 4a366001 - file date is 6/15/2009 10:51:40
C:\Windows\system32\atiu9pag.dll, loaded at 0x6f7f0000 - 32768 bytes - 50a69617 - file date is 11/16/2012 15:37:58
C:\Windows\system32\HID.DLL, loaded at 0x6f800000 - 22016 bytes - 4549bcde - file date is 11/2/2006 05:46:06
C:\Windows\system32\dwmapi.dll, loaded at 0x6f810000 - 39936 bytes - 4791a6c1 - file date is 1/20/2008 22:48:56
C:\Windows\system32\d3d8thk.dll, loaded at 0x6f820000 - 11264 bytes - 4549bcc0 - file date is 11/2/2006 05:46:04
C:\Windows\system32\MSACM32.dll, loaded at 0x70d00000 - 71680 bytes - 4791a704 - file date is 1/20/2008 22:50:48
C:\Windows\system32\audioeng.dll, loaded at 0x70d20000 - 396800 bytes - 49e03701 - file date is 4/10/2009 23:28:20
C:\Windows\system32\midimap.dll, loaded at 0x70dd0000 - 17408 bytes - 49e03784 - file date is 4/10/2009 23:28:22
C:\Windows\system32\AUDIOSES.DLL, loaded at 0x70de0000 - 115712 bytes - 49e03703 - file date is 4/10/2009 23:28:20
C:\Windows\system32\MMDevAPI.DLL, loaded at 0x70e10000 - 150528 bytes - 49e0375f - file date is 4/10/2009 23:28:22
C:\Windows\system32\msacm32.drv, loaded at 0x724b0000 - 21504 bytes - 49e03778 - file date is 4/10/2009 23:27:14
C:\Windows\system32\uxtheme.dll, loaded at 0x72630000 - 234496 bytes - 4791a783 - file date is 1/20/2008 22:51:06
C:\Windows\WinSxS\x86_microsoft.windows.common-controls_6595b64144ccf1df_5.82.6002.18305_none_88f3a38569c2c436\COMCTL32.dll, loaded at 0x726b0000 - 531968 bytes - 4c7d2337 - file date is 8/31/2010 11:43:54
C:\Windows\system32\dbghelp.dll, loaded at 0x72a50000 - 798208 bytes - 4791a665 - file date is 1/20/2008 22:48:32
C:\Windows\system32\wdmaud.drv, loaded at 0x73250000 - 167424 bytes - 49e03813 - file date is 4/10/2009 23:27:14
C:\Windows\system32\AVRT.dll, loaded at 0x732f0000 - 12800 bytes - 4791a655 - file date is 1/20/2008 22:50:38
C:\Windows\system32\ksuser.dll, loaded at 0x73320000 - 4608 bytes - 4549bd89 - file date is 11/2/2006 05:46:06
C:\Windows\system32\rsaenh.dll, loaded at 0x73910000 - 241128 bytes - 49e037ea - file date is 4/10/2009 23:27:48
C:\Windows\system32\WINSPOOL.DRV, loaded at 0x73950000 - 258048 bytes - 4d385e1e - file date is 1/20/2011 12:07:44
C:\Windows\system32\WINTRUST.dll, loaded at 0x739a0000 - 172544 bytes - 51da3e4a - file date is 7/8/2013 00:20:06
C:\Windows\system32\CRYPT32.dll, loaded at 0x73bb0000 - 992768 bytes - 51da3e58 - file date is 7/8/2013 00:16:56
C:\Windows\system32\MSASN1.dll, loaded at 0x74050000 - 60928 bytes - 4aa0fd15 - file date is 9/4/2009 07:42:00
C:\Windows\system32\NTMARTA.DLL, loaded at 0x740f0000 - 121344 bytes - 49e03833 - file date is 4/10/2009 23:28:24
C:\Windows\system32\SAMLIB.dll, loaded at 0x74160000 - 57344 bytes - 49e037e2 - file date is 4/10/2009 23:28:26
C:\Windows\system32\OLEACC.dll, loaded at 0x743f0000 - 238080 bytes - 4e5674e2 - file date is 8/25/2011 12:14:02
C:\Windows\WinSxS\x86_microsoft.windows.common-controls_6595b64144ccf1df_6.0.6002.18305_none_5cb72f2a088b0ed3\comctl32.dll, loaded at 0x74430000 - 1686016 bytes - 4c7d2463 - file date is 8/31/2010 11:43:54
C:\Windows\system32\WINMM.dll, loaded at 0x745d0000 - 189952 bytes - 4e985d90 - file date is 10/14/2011 12:03:26
C:\Windows\system32\USERENV.dll, loaded at 0x74780000 - 108544 bytes - 49e03810 - file date is 4/10/2009 23:28:26
C:\Windows\system32\DINPUT8.dll, loaded at 0x74e50000 - 159232 bytes - 4791a672 - file date is 1/20/2008 22:47:32
C:\Windows\system32\POWRPROF.dll, loaded at 0x74e90000 - 98816 bytes - 49e03812 - file date is 4/10/2009 23:28:24
C:\Windows\system32\oledlg.dll, loaded at 0x74eb0000 - 101888 bytes - 4791a753 - file date is 1/20/2008 22:50:10
C:\Windows\system32\VERSION.dll, loaded at 0x74f00000 - 20480 bytes - 49e03812 - file date is 4/10/2009 23:28:26
C:\Windows\syswow64\Secur32.dll, loaded at 0x74fa0000 - 77312 bytes - 4fc958b7 - file date is 6/1/2012 20:05:12
C:\Windows\syswow64\SHELL32.dll, loaded at 0x75000000 - 11586048 bytes - 4fd23a92 - file date is 6/8/2012 13:47:02
C:\Windows\syswow64\msvcrt.dll, loaded at 0x75b20000 - 680448 bytes - 4ee8cc5a - file date is 12/14/2011 12:17:48
C:\Windows\syswow64\RPCRT4.dll, loaded at 0x75bd0000 - 677888 bytes - 51dd2dc5 - file date is 7/10/2013 05:47:50
C:\Windows\syswow64\WS2_32.dll, loaded at 0x75cc0000 - 179200 bytes - 4791a798 - file date is 1/20/2008 22:50:36
C:\Windows\syswow64\ole32.dll, loaded at 0x75cf0000 - 1316864 bytes - 4c28d53e - file date is 6/28/2010 13:00:22
C:\Windows\syswow64\comdlg32.dll, loaded at 0x75e40000 - 450560 bytes - 49e03809 - file date is 4/10/2009 23:28:20
C:\Windows\syswow64\PSAPI.DLL, loaded at 0x75ec0000 - 12288 bytes - 4549bd99 - file date is 11/2/2006 05:46:14
C:\Windows\syswow64\kernel32.dll, loaded at 0x75ed0000 - 860160 bytes - 5065cd44 - file date is 9/28/2012 12:13:30
C:\Windows\syswow64\OLEAUT32.dll, loaded at 0x75fe0000 - 563712 bytes - 4e5674e4 - file date is 8/25/2011 12:14:02
C:\Windows\syswow64\WININET.dll, loaded at 0x76070000 - 1129472 bytes - 51f8de65 - file date is 7/31/2013 05:52:46
C:\Windows\syswow64\SHLWAPI.dll, loaded at 0x76190000 - 353280 bytes - 50ada1fd - file date is 11/21/2012 23:54:38
C:\Windows\syswow64\WLDAP32.dll, loaded at 0x761f0000 - 287744 bytes - 49e0387e - file date is 4/10/2009 23:28:26
C:\Windows\syswow64\Normaliz.dll, loaded at 0x76240000 - 2560 bytes - 4549ad42 - file date is 11/2/2006 04:33:08
C:\Windows\syswow64\iertutil.dll, loaded at 0x76250000 - 1796096 bytes - 51f8dcf4 - file date is 7/31/2013 05:46:38
C:\Windows\syswow64\CLBCatQ.DLL, loaded at 0x76410000 - 523776 bytes - 4791a66f - file date is 1/20/2008 22:49:36
C:\Windows\syswow64\urlmon.dll, loaded at 0x764a0000 - 1104896 bytes - 51f8de88 - file date is 7/31/2013 05:53:18
C:\Windows\syswow64\GDI32.dll, loaded at 0x765c0000 - 303616 bytes - 49e03823 - file date is 4/10/2009 23:26:44
C:\Windows\syswow64\MSCTF.dll, loaded at 0x76650000 - 807424 bytes - 49e03793 - file date is 4/10/2009 23:28:22
C:\Windows\system32\IMM32.DLL, loaded at 0x76720000 - 116224 bytes - 49e03823 - file date is 4/10/2009 23:26:44
C:\Windows\syswow64\LPK.DLL, loaded at 0x76780000 - 23552 bytes - 49e03824 - file date is 4/11/2009 02:26:46
C:\Windows\syswow64\SETUPAPI.dll, loaded at 0x76820000 - 1591296 bytes - 49e037e9 - file date is 4/10/2009 23:28:26
C:\Windows\syswow64\ADVAPI32.dll, loaded at 0x769b0000 - 800768 bytes - 49e03717 - file date is 4/10/2009 23:28:18
C:\Windows\syswow64\imagehlp.dll, loaded at 0x76a80000 - 157696 bytes - 4f4e4011 - file date is 2/29/2012 11:09:54
C:\Windows\syswow64\USP10.dll, loaded at 0x76ab0000 - 502272 bytes - 4bc89484 - file date is 4/16/2010 12:46:50
C:\Windows\syswow64\USER32.dll, loaded at 0x76b30000 - 648704 bytes - 49e03825 - file date is 4/10/2009 23:26:46
C:\Windows\syswow64\NSI.dll, loaded at 0x77450000 - 8192 bytes - 4791a7a4 - file date is 1/20/2008 22:50:16
C:\Windows\SysWOW64\ntdll.dll, loaded at 0x77480000 - 1168088 bytes - 51da3e00 - file date is 7/9/2013 08:04:32

[stickman]

Dee,

I will let Buddye (our main man coder and our old time BDG leader) interpret this.

I will also know that he will ask for more details on what you were doing to run into this CTD.

There is an old western USA (Texas to Montana) saying about when something goes wrong, and Why it did, to consider exactly Why it went wrong: "The 4 W's and an H".
Who? What? Where? When? and How?
Once these The 4 W's and an H answers are known, then the ultimate question of Why it happened may be better understood.

I grew up in Montana, and Buddye still lives in Texas.
I think all Homicide Detectives around the world use a variation of this formula, when solving crimes,
but they are usually looking for the Who culprit ultimately, and the Why motive to prove for the prosecutor, and jury's judgement, to convict for criminal activity.

As always... the better eye witness accounts, with detailed information like, Who? What? Where? When? and How?
can better let understand Why things went wrong.

Would you go to your local Police Station, report a crime, and give them absolutely no information about Who? What? Where? When? and How?
and expect them to do anything to solve the crime?

Aloha! & Merry Christmas!

[Deej1965]

Hey Stickman..tks for looking over my crash log and sending it to Buddeye for further analysis. I concur with that old saying u mentioned in your last message to me. I know the 5w's and H quite well as I'm a law enforcement officer here in Canada. The 5w's and H r the basis and foundations to grass level policing and investigation. I will await Buddeye's reply to my crash log.
Here's to u and your family wishing u a safe and Merry Christmas!!
Take care
Deej

[stickman]

Deej,

As a boy growing up in northern Montana, I learned to love Canadians. You can call me Yank! If I can call you Canuck!
I grew up 40 miles from the Saskatchewan border. Spent a lot of time in Saskatchewan.
Mom and Dad used to go to Regina just to go shopping in the summer time!
As it was just as close (200 miles) to the next "big" cities in Montana, Billings and Great Falls.
Our usual summer camping place was the Cypress Hills Provincial Park. I always remember watching the beavers there building up their dams, and their nicely built mid-pond lodges.
I would try to keep frozen still.. as I watched them at work. They would freeze... and look right at me too! SPLOOSH! they dive.

When I was a young lad of 12 years old, and playing Little League Baseball, we would go up to a small Saskatchewan town called Val Marie.
Kind of an International Sports thing, and my coach was the only one that needed a Passport back then!

Ah! Val Marie. Kind of sounds like a French Catholic's Saint's name. OK. Even though I was raised as a godless Unitarian!
Not much in Val Marie. Not even a Stop Light! Nice place.

I just now had to Google Val Marie to get some prairie memories back.

An old 1930's era small barn or wheat shed, that was not sited good on a slope, but that was well hammered together, and still defies the hard harsh North Winds!


In the lower right corner, pic above, looks like there is an animal, red fur, white legs, with black ear tips. I think this is a Red Fox.
Never in my life did I try to shoot a Red Fox. If I had a chicken coop, maybe I would have.

You know that you are in Canada when the road signs are both in English and French!


Dee,
As I know now that you are in law enforcement,
and that my errant youth is over,
I now feel more comfortable around cops
than around the crazies I used to hang with!

In the rattle snake sign above, you may notice a distinct lack of Bullet Holes.
Go South of the Border into Montana, USA..
and every damned sign along the road ways are all PEPPERED with bullet holes!
Guys leaning out of the passenger window at 65 miles per hour day or night,
and popping off a .44 Magnum at the nearest sign, like they were Clint Eastwood in the old spaghetti Western movies!

I do recall, one time, one night, about 0300 hours, in Zortman, Montana, when I popped off a few .44 rounds at the cross atop the church steeple there.
I have since reformed my errant behavior.
Plus I sold all of my guns, when I moved to Hawai'i. I am still crazy, but I am clean!

One thing that I like about Canadians vs. US Americans,
is that Canadians have a better sense of humor than their southern USA cousins.
Must be the harsher winters needed to survive thru!?



Again, no bullet holes on this Val Marie, Canadian sign.



Dee,
As a cop, you probably are for very strict gun control laws, I would think.
Even all USA cops want better gun regulation.
Not all of us USA folks are wacko wanna be mountain man gun nuts!

Aloha!

[PV]

I love the "nothing happened" sign, and was curious, so I
googled. Apparently, this has been going on for a while:
http://www.google.ca/search?q=%22on+thi ... 22+nothing

I wasn't able to find an origin story.

[Deej1965]

Hey Stickman...loved your reply and pics!! The fox next to the barn and of course the bullet riddled sign in Montana..crazy!! Yep Western Canada is much the same as your mid west...Saskatchewan is very vast and the whole province has only about a million people total...lots of land...few people. Havent been there or Alberta as of yet but will so in the near future..I grew up in the Province of Ontario...Northern Ontario..City called North Bay..50,000 people...lots of lakes...very pretty in all seasons...left there in 86,the year I joined the Ontario Provincial Police(same as the State Troopers)..we police rural Ontario and all the Highways,& small towns in the Province. The RCMP polices the rest of Canada with the exception of large Metropolitan cities such as Toronto,Vancouver,Calgary,Edmonton,Montreal,Ottawa..etc..Ya our gun laws are quite stringent. I must admit it makes policing here some what less stressful than in the states I'm sure. I can understand why my brothers and sisters in law enforcement in the US probably want tougher gun laws. ( Correct me if I'm wrong but the NRA and your Constitutional Right to 'Bear Arms" have a heavy influence on why US gun laws are so hard to tweak..It appears like political suicide for any Senator or Presidential hopeful to tinker with that and not get crushed by or in voting poles...seems like such a very hot topic)...best thing I could hope to get here was a pellet or BB gun back in the day..lol...U need a criminal background check,a gun course before u even apply for a permit to get a gun here. You can't purchase semi auto pistols,or revolvers or for that matter automatic weapons here. Only police and military have authority to carry and use these weapons...even for us our rifle(C-8..Canadian version of the M-16) is semi-auto for patrol. Our Tactical teams have auto weapons but thats it...only the Canadian military have all auto weapons. No one can carry a firearm on their person in our country at any time...the only time you can is if you are transporting a firearm from one place to another. Lets say from a gun shop to a gun range. Thats called a permit to carry...the firearm has to be locked up and secured during transport(and there's a permit to transport you have to get as well)...and its the same if you have rifles for hunting. Ammo and guns have to be secured and locked up..ammo separate from the guns..its been that way for quite some time. You can call me Canuck anytime...no probs.. My law enforcement career is just about finished 27 yrs in...(30 yrs service and can retire(and will)..with full pension,benefits for life with the Ontario government)..Have some travelling to do after hanging up the gun belt..Europe and the States..then maybe into some sort of security investigation stuff perhaps...I love the US...travelled to Virginia,Carolina's,Washington,Pennsylvania,Florida,NYstate & NY City,Ohio with more to see...people in the US are very nice,the ones I met, I found that they have the same outlook on life and the world as us Canadians,just with a different twist on things..I've also met numerous Americans while vacationing in the Carribean and all were very nice with good senses of humour. They didnt quite know a lot about Canada but I educated them on Canada and Canadians in general from my point of view and how we tick..lol...I live in Ottawa Ont which is our Nations capital..like Washington DC..our "Whitehouse" if you will in Ottawa-parlaiment Hill as we call it...Toronto is the Capital city of the Province of Ontario....no probs with your wilder youth and contact with US law enforcement...we were all young and rebellious in youth..as was I.. only my father was a police officer for the city in which I lived so I had to tow the line abit..lol...I just had to be more creative in getting away with stuff...Anyhow hope you & your family have a Merry Christmas and Happy New Year for 2014. Deej 1965

[Deej1965]

Hey Stickman...loved your reply and pics!! The fox next to the barn and of course the bullet riddled sign in Montana..crazy!! Yep Western Canada is much the same as your mid west...Saskatchewan is very vast and the whole province has only about a million people total...lots of land...few people. Havent been there or Alberta as of yet but will so in the near future..I grew up in the Province of Ontario...Northern Ontario..City called North Bay..50,000 people...lots of lakes...very pretty in all seasons...left there in 86,the year I joined the Ontario Provincial Police(same as the State Troopers)..we police rural Ontario and all the Highways,& small towns in the Province. The RCMP polices the rest of Canada with the exception of large Metropolitan cities such as Toronto,Vancouver,Calgary,Edmonton,Montreal,Ottawa..etc..Ya our gun laws are quite stringent. I must admit it makes policing here some what less stressful than in the states I'm sure. I can understand why my brothers and sisters in law enforcement in the US probably want tougher gun laws. ( Correct me if I'm wrong but the NRA and your Constitutional Right to 'Bear Arms" have a heavy influence on why US gun laws are so hard to tweak..It appears like political suicide for any Senator or Presidential hopeful to tinker with that and not get crushed by or in voting poles...seems like such a very hot topic)...best thing I could hope to get here was a pellet or BB gun back in the day..lol...U need a criminal background check,a gun course before u even apply for a permit to get a gun here. You can't purchase semi auto pistols,or revolvers or for that matter automatic weapons here. Only police and military have authority to carry and use these weapons...even for us our rifle(C-8..Canadian version of the M-16) is semi-auto for patrol. Our Tactical teams have auto weapons but thats it...only the Canadian military have all auto weapons. No one can carry a firearm on their person in our country at any time...the only time you can is if you are transporting a firearm from one place to another. Lets say from a gun shop to a gun range. Thats called a permit to carry...the firearm has to be locked up and secured during transport(and there's a permit to transport you have to get as well)...and its the same if you have rifles for hunting. Ammo and guns have to be secured and locked up..ammo separate from the guns..its been that way for quite some time. You can call me Canuck anytime...no probs.. My law enforcement career is just about finished 27 yrs in...(30 yrs service and can retire(and will)..with full pension,benefits for life with the Ontario government)..Have some travelling to do after hanging up the gun belt..Europe and the States..then maybe into some sort of security investigation stuff perhaps...I love the US...travelled to Virginia,Carolina's,Washington,Pennsylvania,Florida,NYstate & NY City,Ohio with more to see...people in the US are very nice,the ones I met, I found that they have the same outlook on life and the world as us Canadians,just with a different twist on things..I've also met numerous Americans while vacationing in the Carribean and all were very nice with good senses of humour. They didnt quite know a lot about Canada but I educated them on Canada and Canadians in general from my point of view and how we tick..lol...I live in Ottawa Ont which is our Nations capital..like Washington DC..our "Whitehouse" if you will in Ottawa-parlaiment Hill as we call it...Toronto is the Capital city of the Province of Ontario....no probs with your wilder youth and contact with US law enforcement...we were all young and rebellious in youth..as was I.. only my father was a police officer for the city in which I lived so I had to tow the line abit..lol...I just had to be more creative in getting away with stuff... Happy New Year for 2014. Deej 1965