Buddye, CTD using Win8 64 bit.

[MattArgo]

Hi Buddye,

I have been trying to get BoB2 up and running on my Win8 64bit Quad2Core NVidia GeForce GTX 660 Ti 4GigRAM system.
It had been running properly on my Win7 64bit OS before on the same hardware except that I had a Radeon 5700 series card at that time. (I have all the latest drivers and updates for my system installed including a new copy of DirectX 9c.)

I wanted to get back into BoB2 WOV when I saw that the 2.12 update had been finished. I was really looking forward to it.
I get the infamous "BoB English Text has stopped working" error then a complete freeze up requiring use of Task Manager to close the frozen program. This happens after 1 to 3 minutes into gameplay in any setting including Campaign (new or saved), Instant Action or Mission. I don't remember getting this since 2005 when I got the game and had to use the "OPTIMISE_OBJECTS_AT_RUNTIME=ON" line to correct the CTD English text has stopped working" back then. It worked well afterwards.
This program is very important to me for sentimental reasons as my best friend's father was a WWII Battle of Britain pilot and my father was an RCAF B-24 Liberator navigator/bombardier veteran. So this is homage to their memory and to all the airmen who fought to save our culture and people.

I have been avidly reading your instructions to many others with this problem here and I have tried every single suggestion:
-reinstalling to a different hard drive from scratch after cleaning the registry and erasing all traces of the previous install,
-using the Large Address Aware program, (although I now see that this is built into v2.12. Bravo.)
-turning off in game videos,
-resetting my pc display to small (100% meaning 96)
-using the native resolutions for my wide screen system (1920 x 1080) in the program,
-checking the bdg.txt file to set those lines you mentioned properly,
-reducing the graphics settings in game,
-trying different sound settings,
-starting the program as Administrator, etc.
The only thing I could not find was the "disable desktop composition" in the compatibility tab of properties of the new shortcuts in Win8 property boxes.

I don't know if I will ever be able to run BoB2 on my current system again but I thought I would just let you know about this variation on the issue with the faint hope you might be able to help me solve the problem.

I have copied my debuglog.txt file for you here below but I will only copy the dxdiag.txt file if you request it because it is rather long.
Thank you in advance for your help to others here and for taking the time to read my post and consider my problem.

Neill D. Graham,
Montreal, Quebec, Canada.

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Debuglog.txt:

Entered Rtestsh1::Launch3d in c:\merlin\bob\src\mfc\..\MFC\Rtestsh1.cpp at line 242
Entered Inst3d::Inst3d in .\STUB3D.CPP at line 393
Entered LandScape::Init in c:\merlin\bob\src\3d\..\3D\Landscap.cpp at line 10847
pLandTexRezTable = 7906c8 in c:\merlin\bob\src\3d\..\3D\Landscap.cpp at line 10874
Entered keytests::Reg3dConv in c:\merlin\bob\src\mfc\..\Input\Keystub.cpp at line 222
Before while - i == 457 in c:\merlin\bob\src\mfc\..\Input\Keystub.cpp at line 228
Exiting keytests::Reg3dConv in c:\merlin\bob\src\mfc\..\Input\Keystub.cpp at line 240
Exiting Inst3d::Inst3d in .\STUB3D.CPP at line 611
before tmpview=... in c:\merlin\bob\src\mfc\..\MFC\Rtestsh1.cpp at line 275
'inside' tmpview=... in c:\merlin\bob\src\mfc\..\MFC\Rtestsh1.cpp at line 277
after tmpview=... in c:\merlin\bob\src\mfc\..\MFC\Rtestsh1.cpp at line 279
Entered View3d::MakeInteractive in .\STUB3D.CPP at line 1134
Entered View3d::MakePassive in .\STUB3D.CPP at line 1145
Entered Lib3D::SetDriverAndMode in .\LIB3D.CPP at line 2320
Entered Lib3D::_SetDriverAndMode in .\LIB3D.CPP at line 2366
Entered Renderer::SetDriverAndMode in .\RenderD3D9.cpp at line 1615
Before creating the device, pD3DDevice9 = 0 in .\RenderD3D9.cpp at line 1675
Device Lost: After creating the device, D3DPresentParams.BackBufferWidth = 1920 in .\RenderD3D9.cpp at line 1705
1 in .\RenderD3D9.cpp at line 1713
2 in .\RenderD3D9.cpp at line 1753
3 in .\RenderD3D9.cpp at line 1759
4 in .\RenderD3D9.cpp at line 1768
5 in .\RenderD3D9.cpp at line 1790
6 in .\RenderD3D9.cpp at line 1825
7 in .\RenderD3D9.cpp at line 1834
8 in .\RenderD3D9.cpp at line 1840
before InputClass in .\STUB3D.CPP at line 1221
before pInput->Enter3d in .\STUB3D.CPP at line 1226
before NewInitTileManager in .\STUB3D.CPP at line 1307
Entered LandScape::NewInitTileManager in c:\merlin\bob\src\3d\..\3D\Landscap.cpp at line 1951
TILE_GRID_WIDTH = 17 in c:\merlin\bob\src\3d\..\3D\Landscap.cpp at line 1954
pTileGrid = 9955bac in c:\merlin\bob\src\3d\..\3D\Landscap.cpp at line 1964
pTileBuffer = 9944ca4 in c:\merlin\bob\src\3d\..\3D\Landscap.cpp at line 1972
Entered LandScape::NewInitFarTileManager in c:\merlin\bob\src\3d\..\3D\Landscap.cpp at line 2017
WaterDetail = 0 in c:\merlin\bob\src\3d\..\3D\Landscap.cpp at line 2020
HorizonDistance = 2 in c:\merlin\bob\src\3d\..\3D\Landscap.cpp at line 2023
FAR_TILE_GRID_WIDTH = 17 in c:\merlin\bob\src\3d\..\3D\Landscap.cpp at line 2062
SaveFarTiles = 0 in c:\merlin\bob\src\3d\..\3D\Landscap.cpp at line 2085
FarTileFP = 76d0d8 in c:\merlin\bob\src\3d\..\3D\Landscap.cpp at line 2114
before AllocateLandscapeTextures in .\STUB3D.CPP at line 1309
DeviceLost (possibly): SetupRenderBlocks()! in .\RenderD3D9.cpp at line 2400
before SetDirectSoundWindow in .\STUB3D.CPP at line 1319
before ViewPoint in .\STUB3D.CPP at line 1332
before OverLay.SetScreen in .\STUB3D.CPP at line 1341
before OverLay.LoaderScreen in .\STUB3D.CPP at line 1344
before if ( stage == 0 ) in .\OVERLAY.CPP at line 4072
before Land_Scape.InitTextures in .\OVERLAY.CPP at line 4083
before LoadBMP in .\OVERLAY.CPP at line 4108
before g_lpLib3d->BeginScene(RENDERTARGET_PRIMARY); in .\OVERLAY.CPP at line 4126
before SmokedGlassBox in .\OVERLAY.CPP at line 4145
before g_lpLib3d->SetGlobal( TOGGLE_TEXTURE_QUALITY, &curQual ); in .\OVERLAY.CPP at line 4164
before if (doneonce==1) in .\OVERLAY.CPP at line 4181
before WKInitGeometry in .\STUB3D.CPP at line 1347
In InitGeometry in .\StaticInitExitD3D9.cpp at line 204
DeleteStaticRendererStuff in .\StaticInitExitD3D9.cpp at line 174
CTextureInfoViaRowanIndex::re_init in ..\3D\wkimage.cpp at line 68
FreeMultiSkins in .\MultiSkin.cpp at line 520
After theTextureInfoViaRowanIndex.re_init in .\StaticInitExitD3D9.cpp at line 213
After loading deferred shapes in .\StaticInitExitD3D9.cpp at line 227
After WKInitGeometry in .\STUB3D.CPP at line 1354
before _Miles.Init3D in .\STUB3D.CPP at line 1357
before _Miles.SetDirectSoundWindow in .\STUB3D.CPP at line 1363
before OverLay.LoaderScreen(0+32); in .\STUB3D.CPP at line 1366
before if ( stage == 0 ) in .\OVERLAY.CPP at line 4072
before g_lpLib3d->BeginScene(RENDERTARGET_PRIMARY); in .\OVERLAY.CPP at line 4126
before SmokedGlassBox in .\OVERLAY.CPP at line 4145
before g_lpLib3d->SetGlobal( TOGGLE_TEXTURE_QUALITY, &curQual ); in .\OVERLAY.CPP at line 4164
before if (doneonce==1) in .\OVERLAY.CPP at line 4181
after OverLay.LoaderScreen(0+32); in .\STUB3D.CPP at line 1368
After _Miles.SetVolumes(TRUE); in .\STUB3D.CPP at line 1373
before OverLay.LoaderScreen(0+48); in .\STUB3D.CPP at line 1385
before if ( stage == 0 ) in .\OVERLAY.CPP at line 4072
before g_lpLib3d->BeginScene(RENDERTARGET_PRIMARY); in .\OVERLAY.CPP at line 4126
before SmokedGlassBox in .\OVERLAY.CPP at line 4145
before g_lpLib3d->SetGlobal( TOGGLE_TEXTURE_QUALITY, &curQual ); in .\OVERLAY.CPP at line 4164
before if (doneonce==1) in .\OVERLAY.CPP at line 4181
before OverLay.LoaderScreen(0+64); in .\STUB3D.CPP at line 1396
before if ( stage == 0 ) in .\OVERLAY.CPP at line 4072
before g_lpLib3d->BeginScene(RENDERTARGET_PRIMARY); in .\OVERLAY.CPP at line 4126
before SmokedGlassBox in .\OVERLAY.CPP at line 4145
before g_lpLib3d->SetGlobal( TOGGLE_TEXTURE_QUALITY, &curQual ); in .\OVERLAY.CPP at line 4164
before if (doneonce==1) in .\OVERLAY.CPP at line 4181
before if ( stage == 0 ) in .\OVERLAY.CPP at line 4072
before g_lpLib3d->BeginScene(RENDERTARGET_PRIMARY); in .\OVERLAY.CPP at line 4126
before SmokedGlassBox in .\OVERLAY.CPP at line 4145
before g_lpLib3d->SetGlobal( TOGGLE_TEXTURE_QUALITY, &curQual ); in .\OVERLAY.CPP at line 4164
before if (doneonce==1) in .\OVERLAY.CPP at line 4181
before if ( stage == 0 ) in .\OVERLAY.CPP at line 4072
before g_lpLib3d->BeginScene(RENDERTARGET_PRIMARY); in .\OVERLAY.CPP at line 4126
before SmokedGlassBox in .\OVERLAY.CPP at line 4145
before g_lpLib3d->SetGlobal( TOGGLE_TEXTURE_QUALITY, &curQual ); in .\OVERLAY.CPP at line 4164
before if (doneonce==1) in .\OVERLAY.CPP at line 4181
before if ( stage == 0 ) in .\OVERLAY.CPP at line 4072
before g_lpLib3d->BeginScene(RENDERTARGET_PRIMARY); in .\OVERLAY.CPP at line 4126
before SmokedGlassBox in .\OVERLAY.CPP at line 4145
before g_lpLib3d->SetGlobal( TOGGLE_TEXTURE_QUALITY, &curQual ); in .\OVERLAY.CPP at line 4164
before if (doneonce==1) in .\OVERLAY.CPP at line 4181
before if ( stage == 0 ) in .\OVERLAY.CPP at line 4072
before g_lpLib3d->BeginScene(RENDERTARGET_PRIMARY); in .\OVERLAY.CPP at line 4126
before SmokedGlassBox in .\OVERLAY.CPP at line 4145
before g_lpLib3d->SetGlobal( TOGGLE_TEXTURE_QUALITY, &curQual ); in .\OVERLAY.CPP at line 4164
before if (doneonce==1) in .\OVERLAY.CPP at line 4181
before if ( stage == 0 ) in .\OVERLAY.CPP at line 4072
before g_lpLib3d->BeginScene(RENDERTARGET_PRIMARY); in .\OVERLAY.CPP at line 4126
before SmokedGlassBox in .\OVERLAY.CPP at line 4145
before g_lpLib3d->SetGlobal( TOGGLE_TEXTURE_QUALITY, &curQual ); in .\OVERLAY.CPP at line 4164
before if (doneonce==1) in .\OVERLAY.CPP at line 4181
before if ( stage == 0 ) in .\OVERLAY.CPP at line 4072
before g_lpLib3d->BeginScene(RENDERTARGET_PRIMARY); in .\OVERLAY.CPP at line 4126
before SmokedGlassBox in .\OVERLAY.CPP at line 4145
before g_lpLib3d->SetGlobal( TOGGLE_TEXTURE_QUALITY, &curQual ); in .\OVERLAY.CPP at line 4164
before if (doneonce==1) in .\OVERLAY.CPP at line 4181
before if (flag2) in .\STUB3D.CPP at line 1399
before if ( stage == 0 ) in .\OVERLAY.CPP at line 4072
in stage==0xFFFF) in .\OVERLAY.CPP at line 4114
before g_lpLib3d->BeginScene(RENDERTARGET_PRIMARY); in .\OVERLAY.CPP at line 4126
before SmokedGlassBox in .\OVERLAY.CPP at line 4145
before g_lpLib3d->SetGlobal( TOGGLE_TEXTURE_QUALITY, &curQual ); in .\OVERLAY.CPP at line 4164
before if (doneonce==1) in .\OVERLAY.CPP at line 4181
alltcs (time for all LoaderScreens) = 625, tccount = 11
in .\OVERLAY.CPP at line 4210
before WaitEndDraw(D_YES); in .\STUB3D.CPP at line 1413
after WaitEndDraw(D_YES); in .\STUB3D.CPP at line 1416
After if (!tmpview) in c:\merlin\bob\src\mfc\..\MFC\Rtestsh1.cpp at line 283

[Buddye]

We do not have any BDG members running windos 8.

Post the first 20 line of your crashlog (located in the BOBII folder in the crashlog.txt file) for me to review.

BTW, great PC......

[Prem Holdaway]

Neall,

I too have tried running BobII on Windows 8, and like you, it crashes every time, and always with the same crash. I don't know for certain, but I believe Windows 8, has something running in the background that I don't know of. I also found. Even though I have switched all programs that automatically update and do things in the background, off. Some of them were still automatically running. So I had to delve very deeply to find how to switch them off.

For Buddye's use. He will need a crash log text which should be in the BobII directory. If it is not in that directory, then you will find that Windows 8, has put it where it thinks it should be. So you will need to do a search.

If your crash log text is the same as mine. The crash was in d9d?.dll. I'm not sure but I believe this file is out of Buddye's control and is a crash due to something running in the background.

I still haven't got to the bottom of this, so have temporary reconnected my Windows 7 disk and disconnected the Windows 8 disc.

[MattArgo]

Hello again, Buddye. Thank you so much for replying to my query.
For what it is worth, here is my latest crashlog.txt file produced
a few minutes ago from a fresh CTD English text not working in an
Instant Action flight.
Thanks again for giving your time and attention to my variation on
this theme.
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crashlog.txt


------------ Begin of section written with bob.exe, Build/Rebuild all date: Dec 21 2012 17:39:32 ---------------------------
Bob.exe caused a EXCEPTION_ACCESS_VIOLATION in module d3d9.dll at 0023:65237013
Exception handler called in drawloop.
Read from location 00000060 caused an access violation.
Code: ff 60 60 90 90 90 90 90 f6 46 18 01 8b 46 20 57
Stack dump:
Stack: 0023:65237013 (0x064D5880 0x064D5880 0x064D5884 0x064D8328) d3d9.dll
Stack: 0023:65259D16 (0x064D5880 0x00000004 0x00000000 0x00000000) d3d9.dll, DebugSetMute()+3167 byte(s)
Stack: 0023:65259832 (0x064D5880 0x00000004 0x00000000 0x00000000) d3d9.dll, DebugSetMute()+1915 byte(s)
Stack: 0023:0052728D (0x1282CB94 0x000002AA 0x00862E60 0x00000002) Bob.exe, DynamicVertexBuffer::Flush()+4637 byte(s), c:\merlin\bob\src\lib3d\renderd3d9.cpp, line 1151+108 byte(s)
Stack: 0023:0052779A (0x00000001 0x00000002 0x00000000 0x135DFB60) Bob.exe, DynamicVertexBuffer::Render()+634 byte(s), c:\merlin\bob\src\lib3d\renderd3d9.cpp, line 1380+12 byte(s)
Stack: 0023:00529B1B (0x00000001 0x7416239E 0x050686C0 0x05564348) Bob.exe, Renderer::Render()+59 byte(s), c:\merlin\bob\src\lib3d\renderd3d9.cpp, line 4045+29 byte(s)
Stack: 0023:005BB4B3 (0x00000001 0x0988DADC 0x050686C0 0x0988D7B0) Bob.exe, ThreeDee::DrawVisibleObjects()+1377 byte(s), c:\merlin\bob\src\3d\3dcode.cpp, line 6558
Stack: 0023:0060183C (0x0988D7B0 0x0989AAB0 0xF6A9DC11 0x0F8902E0) Bob.exe, ThreeDee::render3d()+2227 byte(s), c:\merlin\bob\src\3d\3dcode.cpp, line 2073
Stack: 0023:00601C56 (0x082F0048 0x0988D7B0 0x0989AAB0 0xCB0833FB) Bob.exe, ThreeDee::render()+124 byte(s), c:\merlin\bob\src\3d\3dcode.cpp, line 4840
Stack: 0023:0041A13E (0x0F8902E0 0xCB0832F7 0x00000000 0x0836DBA8) Bob.exe, View3d::drawloop()+357 byte(s), c:\merlin\bob\src\mfc\stub3d.cpp, line 1827
Stack: 0023:0042C8BA (0x0018FB28 0xCB0832CF 0x00000000 0x0836DBA8) Bob.exe, _AfxThreadEntry()+218 byte(s), f:\dd\vctools\vc7libs\ship\atlmfc\src\mfc\thrdcore.cpp, line 109+5 byte(s)
Stack: 0023:004777B0 (0x00000000 0x75E08543 0x0836DBA8 0x135DFFD4) Bob.exe, _callthreadstartex()+27 byte(s), f:\dd\vctools\crt_bld\self_x86\crt\src\threadex.c, line 348+6 byte(s)
Stack: 0023:00477855 (0x0836DBA8 0x135DFFD4 0x772FAC69 0x0836DBA8) Bob.exe, _threadstartex()+127 byte(s), f:\dd\vctools\crt_bld\self_x86\crt\src\threadex.c, line 326+5 byte(s)
Stack: 0023:75E08543 (0x0836DBA8 0xF72A1CC9 0x00000000 0x00000000) KERNEL32.DLL, BaseThreadInitThunk()+14 byte(s)
Stack: 0023:772FAC69 (0x004777D6 0x0836DBA8 0xFFFFFFFF 0x77371D8E) ntdll.dll, RtlInitializeExceptionChain()+133 byte(s)
Stack: 0023:772FAC3C (0x00000000 0x00000000 0x00000000 0x00000000) ntdll.dll, RtlInitializeExceptionChain()+88 byte(s)

Stack dump (old format):
135dffdc: 004777d6 0836dba8 ffffffff 77371d8e 00000000 00000000 004777d6 0836dba8
135dfffc: 00000000

EAX=00000000 EBX=0000039C ECX=0A30E8A8 EDX=00000000 ESI=135DF6BC
EDI=65236FF8 EBP=135DFFEC ESP=135DFFDC EIP=772FAC3C FLG=00010246
CS=0023 DS=002B SS=002B ES=002B FS=0053 GS=002B
Error occurred at 1/12/2013 13:36:58.
F:\Battle of Britain II\Bob.exe, run by Neill.
4 processor(s), type 586.
1024 MBytes physical memory.
OS: 6.1 build 7600 platform 2

Module list: names, addresses, sizes, time stamps and file times:
F:\Battle of Britain II\Bob.exe, loaded at 0x00400000 - 4464640 bytes - 50d4f336 - file date is 1/11/2013 05:58:24
C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM32\d3dx9_30.dll, loaded at 0x07ed0000 - 2388176 bytes - 442d83c4 - file date is 3/31/2006 12:40:58
F:\Battle of Britain II\English\text\boblang.dll, loaded at 0x0afe0000 - 679936 bytes - 437b62b2 - file date is 11/13/2007 13:40:50
C:\Program Files (x86)\NaturalPoint\TrackIR5\NPClient.dll, loaded at 0x0b9b0000 - 9728 bytes - 50d2218f - file date is 12/19/2012 12:20:34
F:\Battle of Britain II\muParser.dll, loaded at 0x10000000 - 225280 bytes - 428e0f2d - file date is 11/13/2007 18:25:56
C:\PROGRA~2\COMMON~1\merlin\ocx\Rbutton.ocx, loaded at 0x10100000 - 401408 bytes - 45ab6c8c - file date is 1/15/2007 07:59:10
C:\PROGRA~2\COMMON~1\merlin\ocx\RCombo.ocx, loaded at 0x10200000 - 466944 bytes - 45ab6c98 - file date is 1/15/2007 07:59:22
C:\PROGRA~2\COMMON~1\merlin\ocx\REdtBt.ocx, loaded at 0x10400000 - 389120 bytes - 45ab6cbc - file date is 1/15/2007 07:59:58
C:\PROGRA~2\COMMON~1\merlin\ocx\RRadio.ocx, loaded at 0x10500000 - 380928 bytes - 45ab6cf4 - file date is 1/15/2007 08:00:54
C:\PROGRA~2\COMMON~1\merlin\ocx\RListBox.ocx, loaded at 0x10600000 - 503808 bytes - 45ab6cda - file date is 1/15/2007 08:00:28
C:\PROGRA~2\COMMON~1\merlin\ocx\Rscrlbar.ocx, loaded at 0x10700000 - 376832 bytes - 45ab6d00 - file date is 1/15/2007 08:01:06
C:\PROGRA~2\COMMON~1\merlin\ocx\RStatic.ocx, loaded at 0x10a00000 - 385024 bytes - 45ab6d4c - file date is 1/15/2007 08:02:22
C:\WINDOWS\AppPatch\AcLayers.DLL, loaded at 0x55b10000 - 311296 bytes - 505a9cc6 - file date is 9/20/2012 00:53:30
C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM32\nvd3dum.dll, loaded at 0x59f30000 - 15309160 bytes - 506b322d - file date is 10/2/2012 17:21:00
C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM32\DSOUND.dll, loaded at 0x611f0000 - 523776 bytes - 5010a30c - file date is 7/25/2012 22:18:24
C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM32\wdmaud.drv, loaded at 0x64fe0000 - 172032 bytes - 501085dc - file date is 7/25/2012 22:17:46
C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM32\d3d9.dll, loaded at 0x65230000 - 1762304 bytes - 5010a8f5 - file date is 7/25/2012 22:18:14
C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM32\sfc_os.DLL, loaded at 0x681b0000 - 41984 bytes - 5010ab88 - file date is 7/25/2012 22:19:58
C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM32\DINPUT8.dll, loaded at 0x69fc0000 - 144896 bytes - 5010a805 - file date is 7/25/2012 22:18:20
C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM32\midimap.dll, loaded at 0x6a210000 - 17920 bytes - 5010a96b - file date is 7/25/2012 22:19:02
C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM32\msacm32.drv, loaded at 0x6a500000 - 21504 bytes - 5010a75d - file date is 7/25/2012 22:17:46
C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM32\AVRT.dll, loaded at 0x6a720000 - 23656 bytes - 505aaa47 - file date is 9/20/2012 01:13:34
C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM32\AUDIOSES.DLL, loaded at 0x6b630000 - 324344 bytes - 50986edc - file date is 11/6/2012 00:00:08
C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM32\MMDevAPI.DLL, loaded at 0x6b750000 - 307192 bytes - 505a95dd - file date is 9/20/2012 01:47:28
C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM32\HID.DLL, loaded at 0x709b0000 - 24576 bytes - 50108a90 - file date is 7/25/2012 22:18:36
C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM32\SortWindows61.dll, loaded at 0x709c0000 - 43520 bytes - 5010ab75 - file date is 7/25/2012 22:20:02
C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM32\dbghelp.dll, loaded at 0x71ba0000 - 1107968 bytes - 5010884a - file date is 7/25/2012 22:18:18
C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM32\sfc.dll, loaded at 0x72040000 - 3072 bytes - 5010ae2a - file date is 7/25/2012 21:40:44
C:\WINDOWS\system32\apphelp.dll, loaded at 0x72210000 - 675840 bytes - 505aa904 - file date is 9/20/2012 00:53:34
C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM32\ksuser.dll, loaded at 0x72910000 - 14336 bytes - 50108882 - file date is 7/25/2012 22:34:28
C:\WINDOWS\system32\rsaenh.dll, loaded at 0x72c40000 - 251400 bytes - 50108b66 - file date is 7/25/2012 22:33:46
C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM32\CRYPTSP.dll, loaded at 0x72c80000 - 92672 bytes - 50108b87 - file date is 7/25/2012 22:18:12
C:\WINDOWS\system32\uxtheme.dll, loaded at 0x73430000 - 534528 bytes - 509b1161 - file date is 11/7/2012 20:56:54
C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM32\MPR.dll, loaded at 0x73640000 - 66560 bytes - 50108b85 - file date is 7/25/2012 22:19:06
C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM32\POWRPROF.dll, loaded at 0x73810000 - 244736 bytes - 50108a3e - file date is 7/25/2012 22:19:44
C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM32\oledlg.dll, loaded at 0x73880000 - 102912 bytes - 5010a560 - file date is 7/25/2012 22:19:40
C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM32\dwmapi.dll, loaded at 0x738e0000 - 92160 bytes - 5010899f - file date is 7/25/2012 22:18:24
C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM32\MSACM32.dll, loaded at 0x73a50000 - 71680 bytes - 5010a963 - file date is 7/25/2012 22:19:08
C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM32\SHCORE.DLL, loaded at 0x740b0000 - 460800 bytes - 5076352f - file date is 10/11/2012 00:07:28
C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM32\WINMMBASE.dll, loaded at 0x74130000 - 157184 bytes - 50108763 - file date is 7/25/2012 22:20:26
C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM32\WINMM.dll, loaded at 0x74160000 - 125440 bytes - 50108681 - file date is 7/25/2012 22:20:26
C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM32\WINSPOOL.DRV, loaded at 0x74830000 - 379904 bytes - 50108225 - file date is 7/25/2012 22:17:46
C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM32\VERSION.dll, loaded at 0x74890000 - 16384 bytes - 5010aae0 - file date is 7/25/2012 22:20:14
C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM32\bcryptPrimitives.dll, loaded at 0x748a0000 - 331952 bytes - 50108ae7 - file date is 7/26/2012 00:26:48
C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM32\CRYPTBASE.dll, loaded at 0x74900000 - 21504 bytes - 5010ad02 - file date is 7/25/2012 22:18:10
C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM32\SspiCli.dll, loaded at 0x74910000 - 98816 bytes - 505a97f8 - file date is 9/19/2012 23:13:46
C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM32\imagehlp.dll, loaded at 0x74940000 - 58880 bytes - 5010887e - file date is 7/26/2012 00:26:44
C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM32\OLEAUT32.dll, loaded at 0x74960000 - 551936 bytes - 50108a69 - file date is 7/25/2012 22:19:40
C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM32\SHELL32.dll, loaded at 0x749f0000 - 17560576 bytes - 50986cf7 - file date is 11/5/2012 23:20:02
C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM32\iertutil.dll, loaded at 0x75ac0000 - 1684992 bytes - 509b240e - file date is 11/7/2012 23:24:24
C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM32\WINTRUST.dll, loaded at 0x75c60000 - 265216 bytes - 505a9691 - file date is 9/20/2012 00:55:04
C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM32\clbcatq.dll, loaded at 0x75cb0000 - 454656 bytes - 501081e2 - file date is 7/25/2012 22:18:06
C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM32\ADVAPI32.dll, loaded at 0x75d30000 - 702464 bytes - 5010a891 - file date is 7/25/2012 22:17:50
C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM32\KERNEL32.DLL, loaded at 0x75de0000 - 974848 bytes - 5010a926 - file date is 7/25/2012 21:19:22
C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM32\RPCRT4.dll, loaded at 0x75f10000 - 694272 bytes - 50108b02 - file date is 7/25/2012 19:10:48
C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM32\ole32.dll, loaded at 0x75fe0000 - 1150160 bytes - 50986c95 - file date is 11/5/2012 23:48:28
C:\WINDOWS\WinSxS\x86_microsoft.windows.common-controls_6595b64144ccf1df_5.82.9200.16384_none_bf100cd445f4d954\COMCTL32.dll, loaded at 0x76230000 - 541184 bytes - 5010a807 - file date is 7/25/2012 22:18:08
C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM32\CRYPT32.dll, loaded at 0x762c0000 - 1591808 bytes - 50108aae - file date is 7/25/2012 22:18:10
C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM32\MSCTF.dll, loaded at 0x764b0000 - 890880 bytes - 50a1abab - file date is 11/12/2012 23:19:24
C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM32\DEVOBJ.dll, loaded at 0x76590000 - 120200 bytes - 501089c5 - file date is 7/25/2012 22:38:12
C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM32\SETUPAPI.dll, loaded at 0x765b0000 - 1752064 bytes - 5010810b - file date is 7/25/2012 22:19:58
C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM32\GDI32.dll, loaded at 0x767b0000 - 1022464 bytes - 507638e1 - file date is 10/10/2012 22:11:34
C:\WINDOWS\system32\IMM32.DLL, loaded at 0x768b0000 - 121344 bytes - 5010ab0f - file date is 7/25/2012 21:27:30
C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM32\USER32.dll, loaded at 0x768d0000 - 1126912 bytes - 505a971d - file date is 9/19/2012 23:10:10
C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM32\MSASN1.dll, loaded at 0x769f0000 - 57344 bytes - 50108b91 - file date is 7/25/2012 22:19:10
C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM32\comdlg32.dll, loaded at 0x76a10000 - 539136 bytes - 50108e6d - file date is 7/25/2012 22:18:08
C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM32\sechost.dll, loaded at 0x76aa0000 - 199168 bytes - 50108ade - file date is 7/25/2012 22:19:54
C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM32\SHLWAPI.dll, loaded at 0x76ae0000 - 246784 bytes - 501080af - file date is 7/25/2012 22:20:00
C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM32\KERNELBASE.dll, loaded at 0x76b20000 - 665600 bytes - 50988950 - file date is 11/5/2012 22:51:48
C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM32\msvcrt.dll, loaded at 0x76d60000 - 709632 bytes - 5010ae12 - file date is 7/25/2012 22:19:18
C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM32\CFGMGR32.dll, loaded at 0x76e80000 - 284456 bytes - 50108b0b - file date is 7/25/2012 22:38:12
C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM32\combase.dll, loaded at 0x76ed0000 - 1247232 bytes - 505a976e - file date is 9/20/2012 00:53:40
C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM32\PSAPI.DLL, loaded at 0x77010000 - 7168 bytes - 50108b86 - file date is 7/25/2012 22:19:48
C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM32\WININET.dll, loaded at 0x77020000 - 1775104 bytes - 509b0f06 - file date is 11/7/2012 23:25:36
C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM32\ntdll.dll, loaded at 0x772a0000 - 1409376 bytes - 505aaa82 - file date is 9/20/2012 01:26:48

------------ End of section written with bob.exe, Build/Rebuild all date: Dec 21 2012 17:39:32 ---------------------------

[Buddye]

The crashlog shows you crashed on a windows program (actually a DirectX program) which I do not have the code.

One key question:

Did you update to the latest DirectX 9C (the version of DirectX that bobii uses) which is seperate from newer versions of DirectX.

According to the following web installer the newest is 4/11/2011:

http://www.microsoft.com/en-us/download ... aspx?id=35

BTW, the Large Address Aware is built into the BOBII EXE in 2.12.

[MattArgo]

Greetings, Prem.
Thank you for sharing your experience with me.
I found your observations to be interesting.
There is something in Windows 8 that is contributing
a new factor to the crashing problem.
I have submitted the latest crashlog.txt to Buddye.
Perhaps he'll spot something relevant in it.
We should stand him a round of drinks for the yeoman
service he is offering us all in this forum.
Hip hip hooray!

Cheers, Prem.
Neill

[MattArgo]

Thanks for your reply to my crashlog, Buddye.
I did download a fresh copy of the DirectX 9c file a few
days ago and I did install it then
but I will follow your link and download it again and try
it. Perhaps it is newer than the one I found.
I'll get back to you after I do so.
Thanks very much for your observations!
Wish us luck!
Tally ho!

Neill

[MattArgo]

OK. I've just installed the latest version of DirectX9c and rebooted my pc.
Same crash at the same place give or take a few seconds.
Here is the updated crashlog.txt:


------------ Begin of section written with bob.exe, Build/Rebuild all date: Dec 21 2012 17:39:32 ---------------------------
Bob.exe caused a EXCEPTION_ACCESS_VIOLATION in module d3d9.dll at 0023:65237013
Exception handler called in drawloop.
Read from location 00000060 caused an access violation.
Code: ff 60 60 90 90 90 90 90 f6 46 18 01 8b 46 20 57
Stack dump:
Stack: 0023:65237013 (0x064D5880 0x064D5880 0x064D5884 0x064D8328) d3d9.dll
Stack: 0023:65259D16 (0x064D5880 0x00000004 0x00000000 0x00000000) d3d9.dll, DebugSetMute()+3167 byte(s)
Stack: 0023:65259832 (0x064D5880 0x00000004 0x00000000 0x00000000) d3d9.dll, DebugSetMute()+1915 byte(s)
Stack: 0023:0052728D (0x1282CB94 0x000002AA 0x00862E60 0x00000002) Bob.exe, DynamicVertexBuffer::Flush()+4637 byte(s), c:\merlin\bob\src\lib3d\renderd3d9.cpp, line 1151+108 byte(s)
Stack: 0023:0052779A (0x00000001 0x00000002 0x00000000 0x135DFB60) Bob.exe, DynamicVertexBuffer::Render()+634 byte(s), c:\merlin\bob\src\lib3d\renderd3d9.cpp, line 1380+12 byte(s)
Stack: 0023:00529B1B (0x00000001 0x7416239E 0x050686C0 0x05564348) Bob.exe, Renderer::Render()+59 byte(s), c:\merlin\bob\src\lib3d\renderd3d9.cpp, line 4045+29 byte(s)
Stack: 0023:005BB4B3 (0x00000001 0x0988DADC 0x050686C0 0x0988D7B0) Bob.exe, ThreeDee::DrawVisibleObjects()+1377 byte(s), c:\merlin\bob\src\3d\3dcode.cpp, line 6558
Stack: 0023:0060183C (0x0988D7B0 0x0989AAB0 0xF6A9DC11 0x0F8902E0) Bob.exe, ThreeDee::render3d()+2227 byte(s), c:\merlin\bob\src\3d\3dcode.cpp, line 2073
Stack: 0023:00601C56 (0x082F0048 0x0988D7B0 0x0989AAB0 0xCB0833FB) Bob.exe, ThreeDee::render()+124 byte(s), c:\merlin\bob\src\3d\3dcode.cpp, line 4840
Stack: 0023:0041A13E (0x0F8902E0 0xCB0832F7 0x00000000 0x0836DBA8) Bob.exe, View3d::drawloop()+357 byte(s), c:\merlin\bob\src\mfc\stub3d.cpp, line 1827
Stack: 0023:0042C8BA (0x0018FB28 0xCB0832CF 0x00000000 0x0836DBA8) Bob.exe, _AfxThreadEntry()+218 byte(s), f:\dd\vctools\vc7libs\ship\atlmfc\src\mfc\thrdcore.cpp, line 109+5 byte(s)
Stack: 0023:004777B0 (0x00000000 0x75E08543 0x0836DBA8 0x135DFFD4) Bob.exe, _callthreadstartex()+27 byte(s), f:\dd\vctools\crt_bld\self_x86\crt\src\threadex.c, line 348+6 byte(s)
Stack: 0023:00477855 (0x0836DBA8 0x135DFFD4 0x772FAC69 0x0836DBA8) Bob.exe, _threadstartex()+127 byte(s), f:\dd\vctools\crt_bld\self_x86\crt\src\threadex.c, line 326+5 byte(s)
Stack: 0023:75E08543 (0x0836DBA8 0xF72A1CC9 0x00000000 0x00000000) KERNEL32.DLL, BaseThreadInitThunk()+14 byte(s)
Stack: 0023:772FAC69 (0x004777D6 0x0836DBA8 0xFFFFFFFF 0x77371D8E) ntdll.dll, RtlInitializeExceptionChain()+133 byte(s)
Stack: 0023:772FAC3C (0x00000000 0x00000000 0x00000000 0x00000000) ntdll.dll, RtlInitializeExceptionChain()+88 byte(s)

Stack dump (old format):
135dffdc: 004777d6 0836dba8 ffffffff 77371d8e 00000000 00000000 004777d6 0836dba8
135dfffc: 00000000

EAX=00000000 EBX=0000039C ECX=0A30E8A8 EDX=00000000 ESI=135DF6BC
EDI=65236FF8 EBP=135DFFEC ESP=135DFFDC EIP=772FAC3C FLG=00010246
CS=0023 DS=002B SS=002B ES=002B FS=0053 GS=002B
Error occurred at 1/12/2013 13:36:58.
F:\Battle of Britain II\Bob.exe, run by Neill.
4 processor(s), type 586.
1024 MBytes physical memory.
OS: 6.1 build 7600 platform 2

Module list: names, addresses, sizes, time stamps and file times:
F:\Battle of Britain II\Bob.exe, loaded at 0x00400000 - 4464640 bytes - 50d4f336 - file date is 1/11/2013 05:58:24
C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM32\d3dx9_30.dll, loaded at 0x07ed0000 - 2388176 bytes - 442d83c4 - file date is 3/31/2006 12:40:58
F:\Battle of Britain II\English\text\boblang.dll, loaded at 0x0afe0000 - 679936 bytes - 437b62b2 - file date is 11/13/2007 13:40:50
C:\Program Files (x86)\NaturalPoint\TrackIR5\NPClient.dll, loaded at 0x0b9b0000 - 9728 bytes - 50d2218f - file date is 12/19/2012 12:20:34
F:\Battle of Britain II\muParser.dll, loaded at 0x10000000 - 225280 bytes - 428e0f2d - file date is 11/13/2007 18:25:56
C:\PROGRA~2\COMMON~1\merlin\ocx\Rbutton.ocx, loaded at 0x10100000 - 401408 bytes - 45ab6c8c - file date is 1/15/2007 07:59:10
C:\PROGRA~2\COMMON~1\merlin\ocx\RCombo.ocx, loaded at 0x10200000 - 466944 bytes - 45ab6c98 - file date is 1/15/2007 07:59:22
C:\PROGRA~2\COMMON~1\merlin\ocx\REdtBt.ocx, loaded at 0x10400000 - 389120 bytes - 45ab6cbc - file date is 1/15/2007 07:59:58
C:\PROGRA~2\COMMON~1\merlin\ocx\RRadio.ocx, loaded at 0x10500000 - 380928 bytes - 45ab6cf4 - file date is 1/15/2007 08:00:54
C:\PROGRA~2\COMMON~1\merlin\ocx\RListBox.ocx, loaded at 0x10600000 - 503808 bytes - 45ab6cda - file date is 1/15/2007 08:00:28
C:\PROGRA~2\COMMON~1\merlin\ocx\Rscrlbar.ocx, loaded at 0x10700000 - 376832 bytes - 45ab6d00 - file date is 1/15/2007 08:01:06
C:\PROGRA~2\COMMON~1\merlin\ocx\RStatic.ocx, loaded at 0x10a00000 - 385024 bytes - 45ab6d4c - file date is 1/15/2007 08:02:22
C:\WINDOWS\AppPatch\AcLayers.DLL, loaded at 0x55b10000 - 311296 bytes - 505a9cc6 - file date is 9/20/2012 00:53:30
C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM32\nvd3dum.dll, loaded at 0x59f30000 - 15309160 bytes - 506b322d - file date is 10/2/2012 17:21:00
C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM32\DSOUND.dll, loaded at 0x611f0000 - 523776 bytes - 5010a30c - file date is 7/25/2012 22:18:24
C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM32\wdmaud.drv, loaded at 0x64fe0000 - 172032 bytes - 501085dc - file date is 7/25/2012 22:17:46
C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM32\d3d9.dll, loaded at 0x65230000 - 1762304 bytes - 5010a8f5 - file date is 7/25/2012 22:18:14
C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM32\sfc_os.DLL, loaded at 0x681b0000 - 41984 bytes - 5010ab88 - file date is 7/25/2012 22:19:58
C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM32\DINPUT8.dll, loaded at 0x69fc0000 - 144896 bytes - 5010a805 - file date is 7/25/2012 22:18:20
C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM32\midimap.dll, loaded at 0x6a210000 - 17920 bytes - 5010a96b - file date is 7/25/2012 22:19:02
C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM32\msacm32.drv, loaded at 0x6a500000 - 21504 bytes - 5010a75d - file date is 7/25/2012 22:17:46
C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM32\AVRT.dll, loaded at 0x6a720000 - 23656 bytes - 505aaa47 - file date is 9/20/2012 01:13:34
C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM32\AUDIOSES.DLL, loaded at 0x6b630000 - 324344 bytes - 50986edc - file date is 11/6/2012 00:00:08
C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM32\MMDevAPI.DLL, loaded at 0x6b750000 - 307192 bytes - 505a95dd - file date is 9/20/2012 01:47:28
C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM32\HID.DLL, loaded at 0x709b0000 - 24576 bytes - 50108a90 - file date is 7/25/2012 22:18:36
C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM32\SortWindows61.dll, loaded at 0x709c0000 - 43520 bytes - 5010ab75 - file date is 7/25/2012 22:20:02
C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM32\dbghelp.dll, loaded at 0x71ba0000 - 1107968 bytes - 5010884a - file date is 7/25/2012 22:18:18
C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM32\sfc.dll, loaded at 0x72040000 - 3072 bytes - 5010ae2a - file date is 7/25/2012 21:40:44
C:\WINDOWS\system32\apphelp.dll, loaded at 0x72210000 - 675840 bytes - 505aa904 - file date is 9/20/2012 00:53:34
C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM32\ksuser.dll, loaded at 0x72910000 - 14336 bytes - 50108882 - file date is 7/25/2012 22:34:28
C:\WINDOWS\system32\rsaenh.dll, loaded at 0x72c40000 - 251400 bytes - 50108b66 - file date is 7/25/2012 22:33:46
C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM32\CRYPTSP.dll, loaded at 0x72c80000 - 92672 bytes - 50108b87 - file date is 7/25/2012 22:18:12
C:\WINDOWS\system32\uxtheme.dll, loaded at 0x73430000 - 534528 bytes - 509b1161 - file date is 11/7/2012 20:56:54
C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM32\MPR.dll, loaded at 0x73640000 - 66560 bytes - 50108b85 - file date is 7/25/2012 22:19:06
C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM32\POWRPROF.dll, loaded at 0x73810000 - 244736 bytes - 50108a3e - file date is 7/25/2012 22:19:44
C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM32\oledlg.dll, loaded at 0x73880000 - 102912 bytes - 5010a560 - file date is 7/25/2012 22:19:40
C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM32\dwmapi.dll, loaded at 0x738e0000 - 92160 bytes - 5010899f - file date is 7/25/2012 22:18:24
C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM32\MSACM32.dll, loaded at 0x73a50000 - 71680 bytes - 5010a963 - file date is 7/25/2012 22:19:08
C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM32\SHCORE.DLL, loaded at 0x740b0000 - 460800 bytes - 5076352f - file date is 10/11/2012 00:07:28
C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM32\WINMMBASE.dll, loaded at 0x74130000 - 157184 bytes - 50108763 - file date is 7/25/2012 22:20:26
C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM32\WINMM.dll, loaded at 0x74160000 - 125440 bytes - 50108681 - file date is 7/25/2012 22:20:26
C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM32\WINSPOOL.DRV, loaded at 0x74830000 - 379904 bytes - 50108225 - file date is 7/25/2012 22:17:46
C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM32\VERSION.dll, loaded at 0x74890000 - 16384 bytes - 5010aae0 - file date is 7/25/2012 22:20:14
C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM32\bcryptPrimitives.dll, loaded at 0x748a0000 - 331952 bytes - 50108ae7 - file date is 7/26/2012 00:26:48
C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM32\CRYPTBASE.dll, loaded at 0x74900000 - 21504 bytes - 5010ad02 - file date is 7/25/2012 22:18:10
C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM32\SspiCli.dll, loaded at 0x74910000 - 98816 bytes - 505a97f8 - file date is 9/19/2012 23:13:46
C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM32\imagehlp.dll, loaded at 0x74940000 - 58880 bytes - 5010887e - file date is 7/26/2012 00:26:44
C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM32\OLEAUT32.dll, loaded at 0x74960000 - 551936 bytes - 50108a69 - file date is 7/25/2012 22:19:40
C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM32\SHELL32.dll, loaded at 0x749f0000 - 17560576 bytes - 50986cf7 - file date is 11/5/2012 23:20:02
C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM32\iertutil.dll, loaded at 0x75ac0000 - 1684992 bytes - 509b240e - file date is 11/7/2012 23:24:24
C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM32\WINTRUST.dll, loaded at 0x75c60000 - 265216 bytes - 505a9691 - file date is 9/20/2012 00:55:04
C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM32\clbcatq.dll, loaded at 0x75cb0000 - 454656 bytes - 501081e2 - file date is 7/25/2012 22:18:06
C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM32\ADVAPI32.dll, loaded at 0x75d30000 - 702464 bytes - 5010a891 - file date is 7/25/2012 22:17:50
C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM32\KERNEL32.DLL, loaded at 0x75de0000 - 974848 bytes - 5010a926 - file date is 7/25/2012 21:19:22
C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM32\RPCRT4.dll, loaded at 0x75f10000 - 694272 bytes - 50108b02 - file date is 7/25/2012 19:10:48
C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM32\ole32.dll, loaded at 0x75fe0000 - 1150160 bytes - 50986c95 - file date is 11/5/2012 23:48:28
C:\WINDOWS\WinSxS\x86_microsoft.windows.common-controls_6595b64144ccf1df_5.82.9200.16384_none_bf100cd445f4d954\COMCTL32.dll, loaded at 0x76230000 - 541184 bytes - 5010a807 - file date is 7/25/2012 22:18:08
C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM32\CRYPT32.dll, loaded at 0x762c0000 - 1591808 bytes - 50108aae - file date is 7/25/2012 22:18:10
C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM32\MSCTF.dll, loaded at 0x764b0000 - 890880 bytes - 50a1abab - file date is 11/12/2012 23:19:24
C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM32\DEVOBJ.dll, loaded at 0x76590000 - 120200 bytes - 501089c5 - file date is 7/25/2012 22:38:12
C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM32\SETUPAPI.dll, loaded at 0x765b0000 - 1752064 bytes - 5010810b - file date is 7/25/2012 22:19:58
C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM32\GDI32.dll, loaded at 0x767b0000 - 1022464 bytes - 507638e1 - file date is 10/10/2012 22:11:34
C:\WINDOWS\system32\IMM32.DLL, loaded at 0x768b0000 - 121344 bytes - 5010ab0f - file date is 7/25/2012 21:27:30
C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM32\USER32.dll, loaded at 0x768d0000 - 1126912 bytes - 505a971d - file date is 9/19/2012 23:10:10
C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM32\MSASN1.dll, loaded at 0x769f0000 - 57344 bytes - 50108b91 - file date is 7/25/2012 22:19:10
C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM32\comdlg32.dll, loaded at 0x76a10000 - 539136 bytes - 50108e6d - file date is 7/25/2012 22:18:08
C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM32\sechost.dll, loaded at 0x76aa0000 - 199168 bytes - 50108ade - file date is 7/25/2012 22:19:54
C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM32\SHLWAPI.dll, loaded at 0x76ae0000 - 246784 bytes - 501080af - file date is 7/25/2012 22:20:00
C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM32\KERNELBASE.dll, loaded at 0x76b20000 - 665600 bytes - 50988950 - file date is 11/5/2012 22:51:48
C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM32\msvcrt.dll, loaded at 0x76d60000 - 709632 bytes - 5010ae12 - file date is 7/25/2012 22:19:18
C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM32\CFGMGR32.dll, loaded at 0x76e80000 - 284456 bytes - 50108b0b - file date is 7/25/2012 22:38:12
C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM32\combase.dll, loaded at 0x76ed0000 - 1247232 bytes - 505a976e - file date is 9/20/2012 00:53:40
C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM32\PSAPI.DLL, loaded at 0x77010000 - 7168 bytes - 50108b86 - file date is 7/25/2012 22:19:48
C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM32\WININET.dll, loaded at 0x77020000 - 1775104 bytes - 509b0f06 - file date is 11/7/2012 23:25:36
C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM32\ntdll.dll, loaded at 0x772a0000 - 1409376 bytes - 505aaa82 - file date is 9/20/2012 01:26:48

------------ End of section written with bob.exe, Build/Rebuild all date: Dec 21 2012 17:39:32 ---------------------------



------------ Begin of section written with bob.exe, Build/Rebuild all date: Dec 21 2012 17:39:32 ---------------------------
bob.exe caused a EXCEPTION_ACCESS_VIOLATION in module d3d9.dll at 0023:68E17013
Exception handler called in drawloop.
Read from location 00000060 caused an access violation.
Code: ff 60 60 90 90 90 90 90 f6 46 18 01 8b 46 20 57
Stack dump:
Stack: 0023:68E17013 (0x0B0CAE60 0x0B0CAE60 0x0B0CAE64 0x0B0CD908) d3d9.dll
Stack: 0023:68E39D16 (0x0B0CAE60 0x00000004 0x00000000 0x00000000) d3d9.dll, DebugSetMute()+3167 byte(s)
Stack: 0023:68E39832 (0x0B0CAE60 0x00000004 0x00000000 0x00000000) d3d9.dll, DebugSetMute()+1915 byte(s)
Stack: 0023:0052728D (0x11FDFE1C 0x000002AA 0x00862E60 0x00000002) bob.exe, DynamicVertexBuffer::Flush()+4637 byte(s), c:\merlin\bob\src\lib3d\renderd3d9.cpp, line 1151+108 byte(s)
Stack: 0023:0052779A (0x00000001 0x00000002 0x00000000 0x1037FB60) bob.exe, DynamicVertexBuffer::Render()+634 byte(s), c:\merlin\bob\src\lib3d\renderd3d9.cpp, line 1380+12 byte(s)
Stack: 0023:00529B1B (0x00000001 0x7422239E 0x050686C0 0x05564348) bob.exe, Renderer::Render()+59 byte(s), c:\merlin\bob\src\lib3d\renderd3d9.cpp, line 4045+29 byte(s)
Stack: 0023:005BB4B3 (0x00000001 0x08257B7C 0x050686C0 0x08257850) bob.exe, ThreeDee::DrawVisibleObjects()+1377 byte(s), c:\merlin\bob\src\3d\3dcode.cpp, line 6558
Stack: 0023:0060183C (0x08257850 0x0981B830 0x4E739911 0x09808800) bob.exe, ThreeDee::render3d()+2227 byte(s), c:\merlin\bob\src\3d\3dcode.cpp, line 2073
Stack: 0023:00601C56 (0x08250048 0x08257850 0x0981B830 0xA8D2BD04) bob.exe, ThreeDee::render()+124 byte(s), c:\merlin\bob\src\3d\3dcode.cpp, line 4840
Stack: 0023:0041A13E (0x09808800 0xA8D2BC08 0x00000000 0x08D6A0B8) bob.exe, View3d::drawloop()+357 byte(s), c:\merlin\bob\src\mfc\stub3d.cpp, line 1827
Stack: 0023:0042C8BA (0x0018FB28 0xA8D2BC30 0x00000000 0x08D6A0B8) bob.exe, _AfxThreadEntry()+218 byte(s), f:\dd\vctools\vc7libs\ship\atlmfc\src\mfc\thrdcore.cpp, line 109+5 byte(s)
Stack: 0023:004777B0 (0x00000000 0x751E8543 0x08D6A0B8 0x1037FFD4) bob.exe, _callthreadstartex()+27 byte(s), f:\dd\vctools\crt_bld\self_x86\crt\src\threadex.c, line 348+6 byte(s)
Stack: 0023:00477855 (0x08D6A0B8 0x1037FFD4 0x773BAC69 0x08D6A0B8) bob.exe, _threadstartex()+127 byte(s), f:\dd\vctools\crt_bld\self_x86\crt\src\threadex.c, line 326+5 byte(s)
Stack: 0023:751E8543 (0x08D6A0B8 0x4E1ED972 0x00000000 0x00000000) KERNEL32.DLL, BaseThreadInitThunk()+14 byte(s)
Stack: 0023:773BAC69 (0x004777D6 0x08D6A0B8 0xFFFFFFFF 0x77431D8E) ntdll.dll, RtlInitializeExceptionChain()+133 byte(s)
Stack: 0023:773BAC3C (0x00000000 0x00000000 0x00000000 0x00000000) ntdll.dll, RtlInitializeExceptionChain()+88 byte(s)

Stack dump (old format):
1037ffdc: 004777d6 08d6a0b8 ffffffff 77431d8e 00000000 00000000 004777d6 08d6a0b8
1037fffc: 00000000

EAX=00000000 EBX=000002B8 ECX=0A25D648 EDX=00000000 ESI=1037F6BC
EDI=68E16FF8 EBP=1037FFEC ESP=1037FFDC EIP=773BAC3C FLG=00010246
CS=0023 DS=002B SS=002B ES=002B FS=0053 GS=002B
Error occurred at 1/12/2013 14:15:08.
F:\Battle of Britain II\bob.exe, run by Neill.
4 processor(s), type 586.
1024 MBytes physical memory.
OS: 6.1 build 7600 platform 2

Module list: names, addresses, sizes, time stamps and file times:
F:\Battle of Britain II\bob.exe, loaded at 0x00400000 - 4464640 bytes - 50d4f336 - file date is 1/11/2013 05:58:24
C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM32\d3dx9_30.dll, loaded at 0x07ed0000 - 2388176 bytes - 442d83c4 - file date is 3/31/2006 12:40:58
F:\Battle of Britain II\English\text\boblang.dll, loaded at 0x0afb0000 - 679936 bytes - 437b62b2 - file date is 11/13/2007 13:40:50
C:\Program Files (x86)\NaturalPoint\TrackIR5\NPClient.dll, loaded at 0x0b970000 - 9728 bytes - 50d2218f - file date is 12/19/2012 12:20:34
F:\Battle of Britain II\muParser.dll, loaded at 0x10000000 - 225280 bytes - 428e0f2d - file date is 11/13/2007 18:25:56
C:\PROGRA~2\COMMON~1\merlin\ocx\Rbutton.ocx, loaded at 0x10100000 - 401408 bytes - 45ab6c8c - file date is 1/15/2007 07:59:10
C:\PROGRA~2\COMMON~1\merlin\ocx\RCombo.ocx, loaded at 0x10200000 - 466944 bytes - 45ab6c98 - file date is 1/15/2007 07:59:22
C:\PROGRA~2\COMMON~1\merlin\ocx\REdtBt.ocx, loaded at 0x10400000 - 389120 bytes - 45ab6cbc - file date is 1/15/2007 07:59:58
C:\PROGRA~2\COMMON~1\merlin\ocx\RRadio.ocx, loaded at 0x10500000 - 380928 bytes - 45ab6cf4 - file date is 1/15/2007 08:00:54
C:\PROGRA~2\COMMON~1\merlin\ocx\RListBox.ocx, loaded at 0x10600000 - 503808 bytes - 45ab6cda - file date is 1/15/2007 08:00:28
C:\PROGRA~2\COMMON~1\merlin\ocx\Rscrlbar.ocx, loaded at 0x10700000 - 376832 bytes - 45ab6d00 - file date is 1/15/2007 08:01:06
C:\PROGRA~2\COMMON~1\merlin\ocx\RStatic.ocx, loaded at 0x10a00000 - 385024 bytes - 45ab6d4c - file date is 1/15/2007 08:02:22
C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM32\nvd3dum.dll, loaded at 0x62020000 - 15309160 bytes - 506b322d - file date is 10/2/2012 17:21:00
C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM32\AUDIOSES.DLL, loaded at 0x65a70000 - 324344 bytes - 50986edc - file date is 11/6/2012 00:00:08
C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM32\MMDevAPI.DLL, loaded at 0x65ad0000 - 307192 bytes - 505a95dd - file date is 9/20/2012 01:47:28
C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM32\sfc_os.DLL, loaded at 0x67130000 - 41984 bytes - 5010ab88 - file date is 7/25/2012 22:19:58
C:\WINDOWS\AppPatch\AcLayers.DLL, loaded at 0x68920000 - 311296 bytes - 505a9cc6 - file date is 9/20/2012 00:53:30
C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM32\d3d9.dll, loaded at 0x68e10000 - 1762304 bytes - 5010a8f5 - file date is 7/25/2012 22:18:14
C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM32\ksuser.dll, loaded at 0x6ae00000 - 14336 bytes - 50108882 - file date is 7/25/2012 22:34:28
C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM32\wdmaud.drv, loaded at 0x6b070000 - 172032 bytes - 501085dc - file date is 7/25/2012 22:17:46
C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM32\HID.DLL, loaded at 0x6b1d0000 - 24576 bytes - 50108a90 - file date is 7/25/2012 22:18:36
C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM32\DSOUND.dll, loaded at 0x6b1e0000 - 523776 bytes - 5010a30c - file date is 7/25/2012 22:18:24
C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM32\midimap.dll, loaded at 0x6b3f0000 - 17920 bytes - 5010a96b - file date is 7/25/2012 22:19:02
C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM32\DINPUT8.dll, loaded at 0x6b400000 - 144896 bytes - 5010a805 - file date is 7/25/2012 22:18:20
C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM32\dbghelp.dll, loaded at 0x6e740000 - 1107968 bytes - 5010884a - file date is 7/25/2012 22:18:18
C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM32\msacm32.drv, loaded at 0x6f510000 - 21504 bytes - 5010a75d - file date is 7/25/2012 22:17:46
C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM32\AVRT.dll, loaded at 0x6f520000 - 23656 bytes - 505aaa47 - file date is 9/20/2012 01:13:34
C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM32\SortWindows61.dll, loaded at 0x6f530000 - 43520 bytes - 5010ab75 - file date is 7/25/2012 22:20:02
C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM32\sfc.dll, loaded at 0x6f540000 - 3072 bytes - 5010ae2a - file date is 7/25/2012 21:40:44
C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM32\oledlg.dll, loaded at 0x72030000 - 102912 bytes - 5010a560 - file date is 7/25/2012 22:19:40
C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM32\dwmapi.dll, loaded at 0x72250000 - 92160 bytes - 5010899f - file date is 7/25/2012 22:18:24
C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM32\MSACM32.dll, loaded at 0x72270000 - 71680 bytes - 5010a963 - file date is 7/25/2012 22:19:08
C:\WINDOWS\system32\uxtheme.dll, loaded at 0x722b0000 - 534528 bytes - 509b1161 - file date is 11/7/2012 20:56:54
C:\WINDOWS\system32\apphelp.dll, loaded at 0x72710000 - 675840 bytes - 505aa904 - file date is 9/20/2012 00:53:34
C:\WINDOWS\system32\rsaenh.dll, loaded at 0x730d0000 - 251400 bytes - 50108b66 - file date is 7/25/2012 22:33:46
C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM32\CRYPTSP.dll, loaded at 0x73110000 - 92672 bytes - 50108b87 - file date is 7/25/2012 22:18:12
C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM32\MPR.dll, loaded at 0x73700000 - 66560 bytes - 50108b85 - file date is 7/25/2012 22:19:06
C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM32\POWRPROF.dll, loaded at 0x738d0000 - 244736 bytes - 50108a3e - file date is 7/25/2012 22:19:44
C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM32\SHCORE.DLL, loaded at 0x74170000 - 460800 bytes - 5076352f - file date is 10/11/2012 00:07:28
C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM32\WINMMBASE.dll, loaded at 0x741f0000 - 157184 bytes - 50108763 - file date is 7/25/2012 22:20:26
C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM32\WINMM.dll, loaded at 0x74220000 - 125440 bytes - 50108681 - file date is 7/25/2012 22:20:26
C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM32\WINSPOOL.DRV, loaded at 0x748f0000 - 379904 bytes - 50108225 - file date is 7/25/2012 22:17:46
C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM32\VERSION.dll, loaded at 0x74950000 - 16384 bytes - 5010aae0 - file date is 7/25/2012 22:20:14
C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM32\bcryptPrimitives.dll, loaded at 0x74960000 - 331952 bytes - 50108ae7 - file date is 7/26/2012 00:26:48
C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM32\CRYPTBASE.dll, loaded at 0x749c0000 - 21504 bytes - 5010ad02 - file date is 7/25/2012 22:18:10
C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM32\SspiCli.dll, loaded at 0x749d0000 - 98816 bytes - 505a97f8 - file date is 9/19/2012 23:13:46
C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM32\sechost.dll, loaded at 0x749f0000 - 199168 bytes - 50108ade - file date is 7/25/2012 22:19:54
C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM32\USER32.dll, loaded at 0x74a30000 - 1126912 bytes - 505a971d - file date is 9/19/2012 23:10:10
C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM32\imagehlp.dll, loaded at 0x74b50000 - 58880 bytes - 5010887e - file date is 7/26/2012 00:26:44
C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM32\CFGMGR32.dll, loaded at 0x74ce0000 - 284456 bytes - 50108b0b - file date is 7/25/2012 22:38:12
C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM32\iertutil.dll, loaded at 0x74d30000 - 1684992 bytes - 509b240e - file date is 11/7/2012 23:24:24
C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM32\OLEAUT32.dll, loaded at 0x74ed0000 - 551936 bytes - 50108a69 - file date is 7/25/2012 22:19:40
C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM32\DEVOBJ.dll, loaded at 0x74f90000 - 120200 bytes - 501089c5 - file date is 7/25/2012 22:38:12
C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM32\SETUPAPI.dll, loaded at 0x75010000 - 1752064 bytes - 5010810b - file date is 7/25/2012 22:19:58
C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM32\KERNEL32.DLL, loaded at 0x751c0000 - 974848 bytes - 5010a926 - file date is 7/25/2012 21:19:22
C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM32\SHELL32.dll, loaded at 0x75300000 - 17560576 bytes - 50986cf7 - file date is 11/5/2012 23:20:02
C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM32\combase.dll, loaded at 0x763d0000 - 1247232 bytes - 505a976e - file date is 9/20/2012 00:53:40
C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM32\msvcrt.dll, loaded at 0x76510000 - 709632 bytes - 5010ae12 - file date is 7/25/2012 22:19:18
C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM32\GDI32.dll, loaded at 0x76750000 - 1022464 bytes - 507638e1 - file date is 10/10/2012 22:11:34
C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM32\ADVAPI32.dll, loaded at 0x76850000 - 702464 bytes - 5010a891 - file date is 7/25/2012 22:17:50
C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM32\ole32.dll, loaded at 0x76900000 - 1150160 bytes - 50986c95 - file date is 11/5/2012 23:48:28
C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM32\clbcatq.dll, loaded at 0x76a20000 - 454656 bytes - 501081e2 - file date is 7/25/2012 22:18:06
C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM32\MSASN1.dll, loaded at 0x76aa0000 - 57344 bytes - 50108b91 - file date is 7/25/2012 22:19:10
C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM32\RPCRT4.dll, loaded at 0x76ac0000 - 694272 bytes - 50108b02 - file date is 7/25/2012 19:10:48
C:\WINDOWS\WinSxS\x86_microsoft.windows.common-controls_6595b64144ccf1df_5.82.9200.16384_none_bf100cd445f4d954\COMCTL32.dll, loaded at 0x76b70000 - 541184 bytes - 5010a807 - file date is 7/25/2012 22:18:08
C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM32\CRYPT32.dll, loaded at 0x76c00000 - 1591808 bytes - 50108aae - file date is 7/25/2012 22:18:10
C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM32\WININET.dll, loaded at 0x76d90000 - 1775104 bytes - 509b0f06 - file date is 11/7/2012 23:25:36
C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM32\SHLWAPI.dll, loaded at 0x76f50000 - 246784 bytes - 501080af - file date is 7/25/2012 22:20:00
C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM32\MSCTF.dll, loaded at 0x76f90000 - 890880 bytes - 50a1abab - file date is 11/12/2012 23:19:24
C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM32\WINTRUST.dll, loaded at 0x77080000 - 265216 bytes - 505a9691 - file date is 9/20/2012 00:55:04
C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM32\PSAPI.DLL, loaded at 0x770d0000 - 7168 bytes - 50108b86 - file date is 7/25/2012 22:19:48
C:\WINDOWS\system32\IMM32.DLL, loaded at 0x770e0000 - 121344 bytes - 5010ab0f - file date is 7/25/2012 21:27:30
C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM32\comdlg32.dll, loaded at 0x77100000 - 539136 bytes - 50108e6d - file date is 7/25/2012 22:18:08
C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM32\KERNELBASE.dll, loaded at 0x771f0000 - 665600 bytes - 50988950 - file date is 11/5/2012 22:51:48
C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM32\ntdll.dll, loaded at 0x77360000 - 1409376 bytes - 505aaa82 - file date is 9/20/2012 01:26:48

------------ End of section written with bob.exe, Build/Rebuild all date: Dec 21 2012 17:39:32 ---------------------------

[TigerMoth]

I wonder if this may have to do with video card drivers? I have seen several reports from people using DirectX9 games without issue on Windows 8 (even some where DirectX 9 is the ONLY thing wokring properly).

I see you each have different cards (ATI & Nvidia). Do you know if these have newer drivers installed because of the Win8 upgrade? I know that the newer ATI drivers are notorious for causing isues with BOBII. It might be worth seeing if there are older drivers available that will still work with win8.

- John

[MattArgo]

Hi John,
Thanks for your observations. Video card drivers can be a pain all right!
My drivers are all up to date and I play a number of other modern games
without any problem including DCS World, Skyrim, FarCry3 and others. They
all work well. It's just poor old BoB2.
What Buddye narrowed down was that there is a library file called d3d9.dll
that is the culprit in the crashlog. I checked this out on the net and see
that many people have had issues in other games like Skyrim and Fallout and
fFactor due to this file.
I checked out on my machine and found five instances of it but in three different
sizes and date/time stamps. So I am thinking of trying to "homogenize" them
but now I have to find out how to take "ownership" of permissions in order to
be able to change files in Windows\System32 and Windows\SysWOW64 where two of
these files of the same name but of different sizes reside.
Maybe there is something there. I'll let you know.
Thanks for your interest.
Cheers
Neill

[MattArgo]

After you identified the culprit as this d3d9.dll file as the "crash site"
(for lack of a better word!), I checked this out on the net and see
that many people have had issues in other games like Skyrim and Fallout and
fFactor due to this file.
I checked it out on my machine and found five instances of it but in three different
sizes and date/time stamps. So I am thinking of trying to "homogonize" them
but now I have to find out how to take "ownership" of permissions in order to
be able to change files in Windows\System32 and Windows\SysWOW64 where two of
these files of the same name but of different sizes reside.
It might also be necessary to put one of these files in the BoB2 main folder.
I'm going to play around with this this weekend and I'll get back to you
to report any change.
Thanks again for all the help you give us with this thorny problem.
I'm sure we're going to eventually sort it out, old boy. Pip pip and
all that rot. Tally ho!
Neill

[Prem Holdaway]

John,

You could well be right. I have always used ATI cards since the rage version and always those made by Sapphire. I have always updated to the latest expecting them not to work in view of other people having problems. I've always waited until Sapphire put the new drivers on their website, because then they have updated them for their own cards. The latest driver version is 12.10. They also have three beta versions, although I never use any beta versions of any drivers.

When I plug-in my Windows 8 disc. I shall remove the latest drivers and try an earlier version. One point though. I am using the latest drivers with my Windows 7 version. It is exactly the same computer, except that I change the drives over. Depending on which system wish to use.

[MattArgo]

I have just succeeded in playing a full scene in Instant Action without a CTD... twice!
The solution seems to have been to copy the d3d9.dll file from C:\Windows\System32 into
the main BoB2 folder! After doing this, the program started, I tweaked my settings and
started the same Instant Action scenario I had been testing all this time. I took off
and joined the furball waiting for the freeze up. The action got very heated but still
no CTD! I got shot down and crashed. The program continued to run. I started up the
same scenario again, flew and dogfought(?) but had to bail out after
blasting a Bf110 and all ended normally!
So that seems to have been the solution so far.
Now I'll go back to campaign and see how it goes.
So, Buddye, thanks for putting me on the right track by correctly reading the crashlog.
I hope this helps others with this predicatment!
Tally Ho ho ho ho!
Neill

[stickman]

Neill,

The solution seems to have been to copy the d3d9.dll file from C:\Windows\System32 into
the main BoB2 folder!

This is from my Windows 7 structure, but do mean that you copied the highlighted d3d9.dll file highlited,
and put it inti the the BoBII root folder?

dogfought(?)

Not a "proper" Queen's English word, for (was in many dogfights) but as an ignorant USA man, I know what it means, and it is shorter. I like it.

Aloha!

[stickman]

For BoBII this d3d9.dll has been:
a sliver stuck our finger!
a cockle burr seed that sticks in our socks!
a cockroach that we cannot kill!
a rat that we cannot trap!

Oh yes. d3d9.dll is one thing that always pops up when testers report CTD's.

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I just did a Search for d3d9 on the Beta Tester Forum.

Uncovered a nest of d3d9 cockroaches! (the yellow spots). 4 more pages dating back to v2.11 days.
Yeah.. this one has been polluting us for a long time. Even back in v2.11.



Here, Buddye writes his standard reply to a d3d9.dll CTD:

"Hi Chumleigh,

You crashed in module d3d9.dll at 0023:4E0A8F51, Direct3DShaderValidatorCreate9()+234289 byte(s).

This is the old shader CTD, d3d9 is a Windows program.

The oldest CTD in BOBII and there is no known fix."

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If I insert the d3d9.dll file from C:\Windows\System32 into the main BoB2 folder,
it probably will not kill me and my Windows 7 computer, and BoBII.

I will test from now on with it in. See what happens.