No functionality behind "Auto-Start"?

[GerdD]

Hello,
unfortunately I am not able at all to start the engines!

I have read the manual forth and back and back and forth.
Have also tried several hints from several people in this
and other forums.Have setup my FSX (incl. Acc.Pack) according
to the manual and this forum. Have passengers and fuel.
Tried different starting sequences with and without engineer´s
assistance and last but not least the so called "Auto-Start"
as well as the standard FSX "Ctrl.E".
Engines are spinning a bit and are dieing then.

This brings me to my subject: what exactly should the
"Auto-Start" button do and are there any other possibilities
to get the engines of this marvelous bird running?

Many thanks in advance.

Gerd

[alan CXA651]

Hi.
Well you might be trying to hard to start them , and this in turn can cause them to get flooded , if this happens , just try starting without primer , in order to clear the flooding , also outside temp/dew point play a roll in how easy or hard they are , to fire up.
ALWAYS if the eng fails to fire after two to three attempts , look in the maint hangar shift+7 to check engine conditon.
Also if useing autostart use the one in shift+3 , not the flightsim autostart.
regards alan.

[GerdD]

Hi.
Well you might be trying to hard to start them , and this in turn can cause them to get flooded , if this happens , just try starting without primer , in order to clear the flooding , also outside temp/dew point play a roll in how easy or hard they are , to fire up.
ALWAYS if the eng fails to fire after two to three attempts , look in the maint hangar shift+7 to check engine conditon.
Also if useing autostart use the one in shift+3 , not the flightsim autostart.
regards alan.

no one engine is flooted. they are all in good condition.
I want to use the "Auto-Start" button (shift+3) but this one is
not doing what it pretends. It does not start the engines!

I just want to fly and do not want to do a dissertation first!
This could come then later step by step.

[Welsch]

You seem to already have checked the maintenance hangar (Shift+7), if you see the engines in good condition. So the next thing to check would be fuel load (and oil level)... I think that would be Shift+4.
If you have both fuel and good engines, the auto-start button should work.

[GerdD]

You seem to already have checked the maintenance hangar (Shift+7), if you see the engines in good condition. So the next thing to check would be fuel load (and oil level)... I think that would be Shift+4.
If you have both fuel and good engines, the auto-start button should work.

Well, I believe You. But that´s my problem. Fuel + Oil are good but it does not!
It´s spinning for about 10 sec + then it dies.
Auto-Mixture in FSX is unchecked.

[Tomas Linnet]

Did you use the A2A fuel manager? The default FSX fuel and payload manager will not work. Just hang in there. A2A has very good support, please make sure to follow instructions closely, if in doubt don't hesitate to ask, there is no such thing as a stupid question

[GerdD]

Did you use the A2A fuel manager? The default FSX fuel and payload manager will not work. Just hang in there. A2A has very good support, please make sure to follow instructions closely, if in doubt don't hesitate to ask, there is no such thing as a stupid question

Yes, I did. (shift+4) Cant see to much to manage there. Just to choose the load.

Perhaps it could help if someone can explain what should happen on FE Panel after
pressing "AutoStart" button.
Iám simming since FS4, so I am not a newbie and quiet familar with my system + software.
But never had such problems just starting engines.

[LostSoul]

Most probably a misconfiguration is stored by any (unknown) reason. Just delete the L049log.dat in the C:\Users\"your PC"\Documents\A2A\FSX\L049 folder and everything is reset to default state. Unfortunately this seems to be the only remedy to regain control under such conditions. The Connie will then start with all engines running. Select "auto cold & dark" state and exit. At next reload the Connie will start cold & dark and I bet it will respond normally to the auto-start function - here at least it does...

[GerdD]

Most probably a misconfiguration is stored by any (unknown) reason. Just delete the L049log.dat in the C:\Users\"your PC"\Documents\A2A\FSX\L049 folder and everything is reset to default state. Unfortunately this seems to be the only remedy to regain control under such conditions. The Connie will then start with all engines running. Select "auto cold & dark" state and exit. At next reload the Connie will start cold & dark and I bet it will respond normally to the auto-start function - here at least it does...

Deleted log-file. Unfortunately the Connie did not start with engines running.
Also the further steps did not change anything. Thanks for this anyway.

[LostSoul]

Deleted log-file. Unfortunately the Connie did not start with engines running.
Also the further steps did not change anything. Thanks for this anyway.

That's absolutely strange. And you are sure that you deleted the correct log-file? (there are various files in that folder!)
I just recreated this situation by deleting the "L049log.dat" file and it correctly started with engines running. After selecting "Auto Cold&dark ON" on the SHIFT-3 panel and shutting down FSX and then restarting the Connie, it started with the engines shut down. Just observe, that initially it looks as if they were running, but they are dying within a few seconds and the state is cold & dark. Autostart works flawlessly thereafter. If this is not working this way on your install, then someting else must be off in a peculiar way. I can recreate the described situation any time on both my machines.

For a further test you could remove (onto a safe place) all files from the said directory (except the "axisConfig.cfg" if present) and restart. This should recreate the state after a fresh install and the engines must definitely be running as this corresponds to the default start.

[GerdD]

Deleted log-file. Unfortunately the Connie did not start with engines running.
Also the further steps did not change anything. Thanks for this anyway.

That's absolutely strange. And you are sure that you deleted the correct log-file? (there are various files in that folder!)
I just recreated this situation by deleting the "L049log.dat" file and it correctly started with engines running. After selecting "Auto Cold&dark ON" on the SHIFT-3 panel and shutting down FSX and then restarting the Connie, it started with the engines shut down. Just observe, that initially it looks as if they were running, but they are dying within a few seconds and the state is cold & dark. Autostart works flawlessly thereafter. If this is not working this way on your install, then someting else must be off in a peculiar way. I can recreate the described situation any time on both my machines.

For a further test you could remove (onto a safe place) all files from the said directory (except the "axisConfig.cfg" if present) and restart. This should recreate the state after a fresh install and the engines must definitely be running as this corresponds to the default start.

Absolutely sure. Deleted the newly created file in a 2. try again.
Also tried your proposal deleting all files excpt. the cfg. Same result.
Tried restarting the Connie via a saved situation as well as
first loading default Cessna. Nada.

Also made another test by deleting fsx.cfg and let it
automatically recreate. No Change.

[Piper_EEWL]

Do you have the automixture feature of the sim disabled? That should definitely be off. This seems likely to me if the maintenance hangar doesn't report any problems and if there is fluids in the aircraft (shift+4 menu).

Happy flying

[GerdD]

Do you have the automixture feature of the sim disabled? That should definitely be off. This seems likely to me if the maintenance hangar doesn't report any problems and if there is fluids in the aircraft (shift+4 menu).

Happy flying

Definetely unchecked. However recognized that the mixture controls on FE Panel
opening up immediately after pressing "AutoStart". Anyway the engines are getting
not flooded cause the fuel pump switches remain off.

[LostSoul]

I'm definitely out of ideas as here all works normally on 4 installs in total (2 x FSX, 2 x P3D) on two different machines. Just as a remark: never use s saved situation for such tests. Just select the A/C and Airport from the GUI. Maybe you could post a screenshot just after a fresh loading of the Connie, with the SHIFT-F2, -F3 and -F4 panels enabled?

[Piper_EEWL]

Man that's a hard one!? Do you have any other A2A addons installed? If so do they work correctly?

I'm beginning to think your install might be corrupted. You're running the simulator as admin and the installation was also done as admin?

Are you running any other Addons? Maybe it's a control conflict with something else?