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is it my imagination or are the flaps more loose ?

Posted: 17 Jul 2017, 15:58
by Styggron
Hi everyone,
I did some rough landings and maintenance hangar reports some flap damage (yellow).
My question is this

1. Is it just my imagination OR when I do the flaps check from the outside and move them up and down they actually DO feel MUCH loose !!

Generally when in good condition the flaps are fairly tight when checked. They felt MUCH looser and had far more give.

My imagination because I've not flown the C172 for 9 months or is it accu-sim in action ?

cheers everyone

Re: is it my imagination or are the flaps more loose ?

Posted: 17 Jul 2017, 17:06
by Oracle427
That is Accusim magic. I hope never to have that happen for real! :)

Re: is it my imagination or are the flaps more loose ?

Posted: 17 Jul 2017, 19:32
by DHenriques_
Styggron wrote:Hi everyone,
I did some rough landings and maintenance hangar reports some flap damage (yellow).
My question is this

1. Is it just my imagination OR when I do the flaps check from the outside and move them up and down they actually DO feel MUCH loose !!

Generally when in good condition the flaps are fairly tight when checked. They felt MUCH looser and had far more give.

My imagination because I've not flown the C172 for 9 months or is it accu-sim in action ?

cheers everyone
Actually there IS a lot of play in the flaps on Cessna's. In your pre-flight on the real aircraft you can feel the play as you inspect the flap brackets.
Dudley Henriques

Re: is it my imagination or are the flaps more loose ?

Posted: 18 Jul 2017, 06:28
by Styggron
DHenriquesA2A wrote:
Styggron wrote:Hi everyone,
I did some rough landings and maintenance hangar reports some flap damage (yellow).
My question is this

1. Is it just my imagination OR when I do the flaps check from the outside and move them up and down they actually DO feel MUCH loose !!

Generally when in good condition the flaps are fairly tight when checked. They felt MUCH looser and had far more give.

My imagination because I've not flown the C172 for 9 months or is it accu-sim in action ?

cheers everyone
Actually there IS a lot of play in the flaps on Cessna's. In your pre-flight on the real aircraft you can feel the play as you inspect the flap brackets.
Dudley Henriques
Ahh ok so it was my imagination. Yes I didn't think it was accu-sim doing it.

Re: is it my imagination or are the flaps more loose ?

Posted: 18 Jul 2017, 11:17
by chadryan
With Accu-Sim there will be more play in the flaps during walk around when they are worn


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Re: is it my imagination or are the flaps more loose ?

Posted: 18 Jul 2017, 20:36
by Jason407
I've noticed it as well, even after flying the 172 and 182 fairly regularly, the flaps definitely have more play in them during walk around as they get worn.

Re: is it my imagination or are the flaps more loose ?

Posted: 20 Jul 2017, 01:42
by Paughco
I have noticed on the Comanche, that if I lower the flaps before reducing airspeed fully into the white arc on the ASI, next pre-flight they "feel" differently when I click on the button to test their play on the tracks. Before subjected to abuse, they go "clunk-clunk-clunk," and after, it's more like "clunk, clunck, clunk."

Accu-Sim.

Seeya
ATB

is it my imagination or are the flaps more loose ?

Posted: 23 Jul 2017, 08:50
by Lewis - A2A
Yes there's a definite use and wear aspect here.

Thanks,
Lewis


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Re: is it my imagination or are the flaps more loose ?

Posted: 23 Jul 2017, 15:39
by Styggron
Lewis - A2A wrote:Yes there's a definite use and wear aspect here.

Thanks,
Lewis


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Thank you Lewis for that confirmation. Ok so it was not my imagination, whilst they do have give because I had such flap damage they were FAR more loose than before. It came as a surprise when I did the walk around.

So this was indeed, accu-sim at work.
:)

Re: is it my imagination or are the flaps more loose ?

Posted: 23 Jul 2017, 15:59
by Lewis - A2A
Styggron wrote:
Thank you Lewis for that confirmation. Ok so it was not my imagination, whilst they do have give because I had such flap damage they were FAR more loose than before. It came as a surprise when I did the walk around.

So this was indeed, accu-sim at work.
:)
From your descriptions yes it sounds like it.

Thanks,
Lewis


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Re: is it my imagination or are the flaps more loose ?

Posted: 01 Aug 2017, 16:45
by Styggron
I'm not attempting to "damage" my C172 just to see what happens.
Those flaps are looser now :D

Lets see what happens if we drain the oil and take off or almost all the oil.

Re: is it my imagination or are the flaps more loose ?

Posted: 01 Sep 2017, 23:03
by TBryson2
Pre-flight my Cherokee the other day and it said my left flap needed repair. Put it in the shop, spend the (imaginary) $$$, do another per-flight and the right flaps are definitely looser than the left!

Guess I'll be spending more (imaginary) $$$ soon on the right! :D
Awesome!